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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:27 PM
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Can someone explain how Kagan got less votes than Sotomayor?
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 03:28 PM by Renew Deal
Sotomayor was confirmed 68-31, but was far more controversial. Kagan went 63-37, and there was no drama. Sotomayor was very impressive in confirmation, but I still don't get it.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:29 PM
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1. the military recruitment issue
gave repubs an excuse (not a good one, but one nonetheless).
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:29 PM
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2. Kagan is scary! Not a judge! Harvard!
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 03:30 PM by PBS Poll-435
Might not like Twilight!

Might not be into the Vampire OR the Werewolf!



Jewish!



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:33 PM
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9. Might not like Twilight?
Do we even know if she favors Team Bite or Team Suck? Important questions on which the fate of the American Experiment rests!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:29 PM
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24. Bingo
I'm betting that a few of those no voters consider the vacancy a Protestant seat.

With Ginsburg and Breyer already on the bench they wouldn't want the Court to get "too Jewish".
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:29 PM
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3. Politics?
Closer to November...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:31 PM
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7. Closer to November.
First thought that crossed my mind.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:29 PM
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4. Republicans were sending Obama a message...
and voting no so they could tell their constituents that they fought against the socialist in the White House.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:30 PM
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5. Race politics
GOP has enough trouble with the hispanic vote, some felt they couldn't be on record opposing her. Some run of the mill white catholic though.....
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:34 PM
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10. That would be my guess. n/t
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:45 PM
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16. I think you have that right.
They probably thought they would get on the good side of the hispanics
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:30 PM
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6. probably a couple of reasons
a) more Republican senators posturing before the election
b) some voted for Sotomayor in order to appease hispanic voters
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:32 PM
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8. maybe
because she's an obvious oligarchist political hack who has no business being on the Supreme Court?

It wouldn't surprise me terribly if she ends up being the first impeached Supreme Court Justice, she is so clearly unprepared for the job.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:36 PM
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11. WTF!?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:37 PM
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13. Those virtuous republicans stood up against the unqualified oligarch....
OK, got that. So I'm guessing you'll be supporting them in November?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:38 PM
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14. !!!
:rofl:

WOW

:rofl:


:thumbsdown:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:52 PM
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18. ROFL! Very funny! Oh...wait a minute....
you weren't trying to be funny! Damn, that makes it even more hilarious!

:rofl: :rofl:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:54 PM
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19. Hey man, as long as Clarence Thomas sits she's safe from impeachment on those grounds.
Any other lame-ass thoughts on your mind?
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:20 PM
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23. Are you serious?
:rofl:
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:45 PM
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28. Haha. Yes, I'm sure the Republican senators just know better. n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:36 PM
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12. Scott Brown replaced Ted Kennedy, Ben Nelson went full-Lieberman. There's 3 more. Who are they?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:39 PM
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15. Alexander, Bond, Martinez, Lugar, and Voinovich
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:48 PM
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29. Lugar voted for Kagan
Collins, Graham, Gregg, Lugar and Snowe were the Republican votes for her.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:51 PM
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17. Sotomayor was fake more controversial.
Her speech to that Latina group was breitbarted.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:56 PM
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20. The party of NO latched onto the excuse that she never served as a judge.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:06 PM
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21. She's not a Catholic. (NT)
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:14 PM
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22. Sotomayor and Kagan were just dress rehearsals for Republican Senators
They knew full well both would be confirmed.

What they are doing is rehearsing tactics to see what works when one of "their" SC (in-)Justices retires
and could be replaced by an Obama appointee. THAT is when we will see filibusters, full frontal 24/7
attacks on Fox and National Hate Radio, and in every right-leaning newspaper from the Wall Street Journal
to the Manchester Union Leader.

The Republican responses to Sotomayor and Kagan were like Allied feints at invading Calais in 1944. When
one of the Republican Reliable Five retires, it will be bigger than Operation Overlord in Normandy. We will
still prevail, but not after weeks, probably months, of Senate time wasted in loud, screaming filibusters.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:32 PM
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25. More than twice as many Democrats voted to confirm Clarence Thomas as Republicans for Kagen
And Kagen wasn't considered controversial.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:35 PM
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26. She plays softball. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say no more!
Such is the art of dogwhistle politics. This should play frequently in an election year, but especially in light of the Prop 8 overturn.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:45 PM
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27. It's entirely timing. The Senate is more polarized now than it was then. n/t
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