Interesting charts for the Bush/Obama Depression

[Karmadillo]

http://www.ianwelsh.net/no-we-arent-in-a-recession-were-in-a-depression/#comments

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Tim Geithner has a few words for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

[Karmadillo]

2. Thank you. I feel much better now.

nt

[G_j]

3. where did the quote at the bottom come from?

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Karmadillo]

5. It's from Thomas More's Utopia.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zjrrJmC60tQJ:oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/more/utopia-religion.html+governments+are+a+conspiracy+of+the+rich+thomas+more&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

The richer sort are often endeavoring to bring the hire of laborers lower, not only by their fraudulent practices, but by the laws which they procure to be made to that effect; so that though it is a thing most unjust in itself, to give such small rewards to those who deserve so well of the public, yet they have given those hardships the name and color of justice, by procuring laws to be made for regulating them. Therefore I must say that, as I hope for mercy, I can have no other notion of all the other governments that I see or know, than that they are a conspiracy of the rich, who on pretence of managing the public only pursue their private ends, and devise all the ways and arts they can find out; first, that they may, without danger, preserve all that they have so ill acquired, and then that they may engage the poor to toil and labor for them at as low rates as possible, and oppress them as much as they please. And if they can but prevail to get these contrivances established by the show of public authority, which is considered as the representative of the whole people, then they are accounted laws.

[G_j]

7. link isn't working

but the whole quote is even better.
Utopia..eh?

[Karmadillo]

8. Here's one that works. I hope.

http://books.google.com/books?id=g9_GdKoTihwC&pg=PA118&dq=governments+are+a+conspiracy+of+the+rich+thomas+more&hl=en&ei=CsdgTJWiMsT38AaZ0Nz2CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

[G_j]

10. great

I am going to try giving it a read.

[RainDog]

9. excellent quote

the google link for page 118 also talks about using people's labor and then tossing them aside in old age.

[xchrom]

4. Oh. Dear. You didn't really put a name like that to it, did you? Nt

[unkachuck]

6. when Obama came to power....

....people around me thought he was saving us from greed, capitalist melt-downs and capitalist excesses....

....imagine our surprise and disappointment when we discovered he was saving us from Socialism....

....a very interesting chart....