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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:03 PM
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Obama vows to fight India, China for new jobs
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 11:04 PM by OhioChick
WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama has vowed to give tough competition to India and China for millions of potential jobs in the American clean energy industry, once again raising the bugaboo of outsourcing.

"For generations, manufacturing was the ticket to a better life for the American worker," he said at a meeting here Wednesday of the AFL-CIO Executive Council, America's union movement.

"But as the world became smaller, outsourcing, an easier way to increase profits, a lot of those jobs shifted to low-wage nations."

Millions of Americans were swept up in the disaster wrought by the Wall Street bubble burst, Obama said. "But I'm here to tell you, we are not giving up and we are not giving in. We are going to keep fighting for an economy that works for everybody, not just for a privileged few."

As part of the economic plan put in place by his administration to battle recession, the president said, "We're jumpstarting a new American clean energy industry - an industry with the potential to generate perhaps millions of jobs building wind turbines and solar panels, and manufacturing the batteries for the cars of the future, building nuclear plants, developing clean coal technology."

"There are other countries that are fighting for those jobs, in China and India and in Germany and other parts of Europe," Obama said. "But the United States doesn't play for second place.

"As long as I'm President, I'm going to keep fighting night and day to make sure that we win those jobs, that those are jobs that are created right here in the United States of America.

"So the message I want to deliver to our competitors-and to those in Washington who've tried to block our progress at every step of the way-is that we are going to rebuild this economy stronger than before, and at the heart of it are going to be three powerful words: Made in America. Made in America," he said amid applause.

That's why the US was finally enforcing its trade laws, he said. "That's why we're fighting for tax breaks for companies that invest here in the United States as opposed to companies that are investing overseas or that keep their profits offshore."

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/6259691.cms

Interesting comments follow:

Faddy, UAE, says: I don't understand what Obama thinks !!!! Believe me its going to be more Indian and other nationals going to serve domestic outsourcing companies in US. "Made in America but born in India "
<8 Aug, 2010 1536hrs IST>

Selvan, Dubai, says: Obama trying certain changes in US law which makes more jobs in IT and other manufacturing indutry in US. But so far unemployemnt has not changed in US infact it is increasing. And GDP also going down.Let us wait and watch
<5 Aug, 2010 0008hrs IST>

proudindian, India, says: This guy is funny.Americans you have to fire him first to get your jobs back
<5 Aug, 2010 0005hrs IST>




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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:05 PM
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1. great
show me the money.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:12 PM
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2. Obama, it's not just manufacturing jobs being outsourced
PAY ATTENTION
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:17 PM
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3. Are we fighting for the ones we're paying to create over there??
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/integration/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=226500202

"U.S. To Train 3,000 Offshore IT Workers

Federally-backed program aims to help outsourcers in South Asia become more fluent in areas like Java programming—and the English language.

By Paul McDougall
InformationWeek
August 3, 2010 01:59 PM

Despite President Obama's pledge to retain more hi-tech jobs in the U.S., a federal agency run by a hand-picked Obama appointee has launched a $36 million program to train workers, including 3,000 specialists in IT and related functions, in South Asia."


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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:38 AM
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10. There was a post here the other day re: India & 22M to train
their workers to do our (former) jobs... is this yet ANOTHER program or the same one with a nice little increase courtesy of the jobless U.S. taxpayers?!
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:48 AM
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11. This is the same one.
It got posted a few times here, so I just posted the news story link for my post.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:03 AM
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12. Did they 'donate' more of our money
to train foreigners for our jobs?

Sorry to be redundant, but that REALLY sticks in my craw :(
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:44 AM
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21. there are no borders anymore...
the corporations will go anywhere with funds from anywhere to guarantee the highest profit...global capitalism wants borders only to fence in the wage slaves...this country will be a country of service industry workers, and military workers...
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:54 PM
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30. To fight their wars?
Call me paranoid but it seems almost by design...

Someday we'll see an epitaph reading: "I just wanted the chance to go to college and all I got was this lousy tombstone"
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:00 PM
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34. +100
that's very good...thanks...
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:58 AM
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17. I'd like to hear Robert Gibbs read this story aloud and
then tell us how the "professional leftists" do nothing but complain!
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:20 PM
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4. Has he no shame?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:53 PM
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33. now that you mention it...
no.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:00 AM
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5. Smoke and Mirrors
"But as the world became smaller, outsourcing, an easier way to increase profits, a lot of those jobs shifted to low-wage nations.


.. this didn't "just happen". It was a calculated plan by the the crooks at Goldman-Sachs while our leaders (both Democorps and Republicorps) looked the other way.


Build American and Buy American... not more empty rhetoric about green jobs.










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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:03 AM
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6. lol. he better fight US corporations, then. Because the majority of china's manufactured exports
are majority foreign-owned.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:04 AM
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7. Talk is cheap. Very cheap. n/t
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:11 AM
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8. Um, yeah.
Joke.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:15 AM
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9. LOL, that's why a handpicked Obama appointee is spending 36mill to outsource to Asia
Despite President Obama's pledge to retain more hi-tech jobs in the U.S., a federal agency run by a hand-picked Obama appointee has launched a $36 million program to train workers, including 3,000 specialists in IT and related functions, in South Asia.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/integration/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=226500202
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:14 AM
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13. It's part of an effort to help Sri Lanka develop. Should we not help poor countries develop because
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 05:15 AM by pampango
their people will one day compete with us? Or is there a way to help poor countries/people in a way that ensures there will be no harm to us? Sri Lanka is a small (20 million), poor country.

"USAID is also partnering with Sri Lankan companies in other industries, including construction and garment manufacturing, to help create 10,000 new jobs in the country, which is still recovering from a 30-year civil war that ended in 2009.

Obama in January tapped Shah to head USAID. At the time of his appointment, Shah—whose experience in the development community included senior positions at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation—said the organization needed to focus more on helping developing nations build technology-based economies. "We need to develop new capabilities to pursue innovation, science, and technology," said Shah, during his swearing in ceremony."
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:18 AM
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14. lol. it's specifically to train them to be placed with US OUTSOURCERS.
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 05:20 AM by Hannah Bell
"Following their training, the tech workers will be placed with outsourcing vendors in the region that provide offshore IT and business services to American companies looking to take advantage of the Asian subcontinent's low labor costs."

sri lankans: cheaper than indians.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:02 PM
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35. it's fucking seed money to outsource FUTURE jobs. we're fucked from every direction.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:08 AM
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24. We have a poor, broke country to develop right here. n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:10 AM
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25. Pampango, pretty much no one is buying that b.s. anymore.
Seriously. Give it a rest.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:22 AM
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28. +1,000 n/t
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:22 PM
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31. The BS is that we should help Sri Lanka (and other poor countries)? That we shouldn't help them?
That we need to help them in a different way? How? Should we help them train farmers, machinists, and seamstresses rather than IT workers?

Or should we not help poor countries at all lest they compete with us one day?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:03 PM
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32. "lest they compete with us one day"
Gee, I thought outsourcing and globalization were going to lead to BETTER jobs for Americans. You know, after we did that retraining and became Internet millionaires.

:rofl:


Now, you guys aren't even bothering with that lame ruse. Yep, you want American and other high wage workers to compete with workers making 1/20th our wages with no labor or environmental standards.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:21 AM
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39. there is no "us" & there is no "competition".
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 04:22 AM by Hannah Bell
there's just a bunch of multinationals screwing the workers of the world. all of them. & you have more in common with sri lankan workers than the president of ford motor.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:03 AM
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15. We are way behind Europe in green tech.
And we can't compete on labor costs with India and China. So while it was a great idea 10-20 years ago for the federal government to invest in new green tech industries, that train has left the station.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:53 AM
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16. He sure has no trouble talking like a radical leftist.
If the left is so marginal and unpopular, why the pretense during election season?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:12 AM
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18. bait and switch politicking
nothing to see here, move along...
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:39 AM
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19. absolutely...
took the words out of my mouth!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:40 AM
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20. Actions not words.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:24 AM
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29. Exactly.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . . . I'm sick of it.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:47 AM
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22. It was the UNIONS that were the ticket to a better life.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:04 AM
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23. I heard the plan in outline from his speech - Everybody Graduates College!
Bucking Frilliant.

That's the same plan Clinton told a worried nation about NAFTA, fifteen years ago.

Same old, same old.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:11 AM
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26. Bucking Frilliant.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:34 PM
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37. like this degree from the college owned by Goldman Sachs:
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:21 AM
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27. "But as the world became smaller" Whoa I must have missed that
I thought it was NAFTA and the WTO that caused the loss of jobs.

He wants more tax cuts as an incentive?

Why don't you try IMPOSING TARIFFS!!!

The Coast Guard was originally created to enforce tariffs.

Apparently our founders thought is was important for some reason??
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:05 PM
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36. Obama has promised and promised..
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 09:05 PM by sendero
.. and he has delivered almost nothing.

Going to pass another pointless full of loopholes bill and claim victory?

Going to jawbone endlessly about what you believe and then do NOTHING?

I'm sick of it. Wake me up when you have actually DONE SOMETHING.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:43 PM
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38. Does he know that even legal services are being out-sourced to india?
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