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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:36 AM
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Here's another e-mail being circulated about the
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 09:36 AM by doc03
Internets. This year the govment is going to put the cost of your health insurance on your W2 and you will have to pay income tax on it. Heard that one from a Teabagger last week.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:39 AM
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1. Um, that doesn't even make sense.
If anything it would be a deduction.

Teabaggers really are dumb as a pile of bricks.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:41 AM
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2. Oh no they say you have to pay income tax on it
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 09:43 AM by doc03
same as wages. more right wing bullshit.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/HR3590.asp
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:49 AM
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3. Use "Reply All" and paste in the snopes.com info that refutes it.
If you want, you can also add your own comment about circulating bullshit thru the internet.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:19 AM
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5. Have you tried to copy text from Snopes?
I'm guessing not, as it is copy-protected. If you have a trick, share it. My trick is to use View/Source to get the page code then pick through it for the text, copy that, remove the code and then paste it but that is a lot to ask from many web users.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:37 AM
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6. I have never had a problem copying text from the site...
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 10:42 AM by BrklynLiberal
and pasting it into responses to stupid rwingnut emails...just like this...


http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/HR3590.asp

2011 W-2 Tax Forms and HR3590
Claim: Starting in 2011, all employees will have to pay taxes on the value of health insurance provided by their employers.

FALSE

-skipping original email content since it it obvious and why repeat it-

Origins: This is another case of a legislative issue which has a kernel of truth to it, but which has been misinterpreted, affects only a small percentage of the population, and has misleadingly been blown out of proportion through someone's mistaken assumption that it applies to everyone.

The portion (Title IX, Sec. 9001) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (H.R. 3590) referenced above is entitled "Excise Tax on High Cost Employer-Sponsored Coverage." This is the section of the recently passed health care reform legislation that addresses taxing so-called high-level "Cadillac" health care plans that some employees receive through their employers.

In general, beginning in 2018 (not 2011), H.R. 3590 imposes a 40% excise tax on the value of employer-sponsored medical insurance that exceeds a given threshold (initially $27,500 annually). Although "the aggregate cost of applicable employer sponsored group health coverage" will be reported on employees' W-2 forms, the excise tax would be paid by the insurance company, not the employee, and is initially expected to affect fewer than 10% of families covered by health insurance:
Many employers pay most of the premium for health coverage. Workers pick up the rest but pay no taxes on the employer's often-substantial contribution. That's why many unions have bargained hard for generous health coverage over the years, even if that meant forgoing a bigger pay raise.

The new agreement would take away the tax advantage for a small portion of the health benefit by imposing a 40 percent tax on the amount by which the premiums for employer-sponsored health coverage exceed specified thresholds. That would be $27,500 a year for a family, starting in 2018. The tax on a $29,500 plan would be $800, or 40 percent of $2,000. The insurance company would pay the tax but would almost certainly pass it along to the employer and its employees.

That $27,500 threshold is well above the current average of $13,400 for a family plan. By 2016, more than 80 percent of all family plans are projected to still fall below the threshold. In the following years, the tax threshold would rise more slowly than the likely rate of inflation in medical costs, which could mean the plans of millions of workers — a small minority of the work force — would be subject to the tax in theory.

Most likely, insurers will drop their premiums just below the threshold. They could do that by setting higher deductibles and co-payments, managing access to care more tightly, or reducing benefits.

Last updated: 25 May 2010

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:47 AM
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7. I am unable to highlight the text by click and drag.
But I just tried control/A to select all and it worked. Just gotta remove the extra junk. Now I feel like an idjut for not trying that before.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:52 AM
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8. I use Firefox/Windows XP. Would that make a difference?
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:58 AM
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9. I do, too.
How are you copying the text?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:23 AM
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12. l click, drag to hilite, copy, then paste.
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 11:24 AM by BrklynLiberal
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:28 AM
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13. Wow, you're right it does work with Firefox but not IE.
I also use IE. OK, now I know what to tel people who complain that they can not copy and paste from Snopes.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:50 AM
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14. Ta Da!!!!!!
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:08 AM
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10. disable javascript, copy/paste, then reenable javascript.
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 11:10 AM by Scout
Tools/Options then content tab from Firefox
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:54 AM
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4. Like most good urban legends it is 'partially' (the part that doesn't matter) true.
Cost of Health insurance WILL be placed on w2 as part of reporting to collect taxes on Cadillac plans.

Nobody (not even those with good health insurance aka 'Cadillac plans') is required to include that as income.

No doubt some teabaggers will stupidly and incorrectly do that. Most likely the IRS will refund the overpayment not that they deserve it.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:15 AM
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11. Well auto workers who have legal services have to pay taxes on those, whether we
use them or not, thanks to ronnie ray-gun!
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