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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:56 PM
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Robert Gibbs Motivational Tip #1
#1 - Make sure to insult and ridicule your base three months before the Mid-Term election! It is a great way to make sure they participate in helping your party retain control!

Stay tuned for more tips as they become available.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:01 PM
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1. I don't think the Left is the Dem base anymore, the "center" is.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:02 PM
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2. Well, then by all means piss off the lefty's!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:20 PM
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10. Well, that's what I mean. I don't think they think of the Left as the base, so what would they
care if they piss us off? I don't think they believe they need our votes any more.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:10 PM
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28. I don't think it is a matter of them not needing our votes
I think they feel we have no where else to go so why bother trying to please us..They have our votes no matter what..
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:20 PM
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29. Yeah, that tends to be true in my case when there are only a D and R running.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:49 PM
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35. "you have no where else to go"
neener neener."go vote for Palin while you're at it" is their refrain
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:16 PM
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7. It depends on where you think the center is
It's where a majority of the people are on a variety of issues: public option health care, getting out of the wars, starting a jobs program instead of bailing out Wall Street again and again, you get the drift.

The party conservatives like the DLC drones in the White House think it's halfway between them and the lunatic right.

So yes, they're going out of their way to alienate the party base and a lot of the independents, as well.

A pox on the lot of them. Throwing victory away with both hands is always what they've done best.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:22 PM
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12. We're long overdue for a three party system
Left, Center, and Looney....
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:31 PM
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20. I hear that
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:25 PM
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32. Well, the left is the base that turns out votes.
The center is part of the vote that the left turns out.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:06 PM
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3. One can only surmise that he spends most of his time
talking to Rahm Emanuel.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:24 PM
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15. And I believe that this Giggs thing has been Rahm's idea...he
does not like progressives and he would rather lose to a repug than back a progressive... back a blue dog...hence Blanch Lincoln...and she will lost the election...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:10 PM
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4. #2 - Extinguish divisive behavior by modeling it repeatedly
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 01:11 PM by EFerrari
so people will remember what not to do if they want a united party.



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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:12 PM
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5. He didn't piss off "the base". 88% of Democrats support him. He pissed off the 12%.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:14 PM
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6. I bet those 12% contribute more than 12% of the time and money!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:22 PM
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11. um... I'm betting not. Most far leftists don't donate much money at all.

The money, for good or bad, comes from the well-connected and wealthy.


Those aren't far left.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:29 PM
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18. You underestimate the left left. Some of us have money!
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:29 PM
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19. I don't know about other places but here the left is what gets out and works
On elections. Some of the people I worked with on the campaign are still volunteering with OFA - I know because they keep trying to get me to go back and work. Last year I had health problems for an excuse, this year I just cannot work up any enthusiasm at all for working my ass off again.

The comment before by Rahm pissed me off, but this crap from Gibbs is the last straw. I will not be volunteering for any campaign any time soon. And I may throw Gibbs comments up to every campaign that sends me appeals for money or time. Let THEM pressure the Obama White House to treat the left better and pay more attention to us. I've sent email after email and signed countless petitions, not one of which has gotten any response or respect from the Obama team.

Robert Gibbs, thanks for making up my mind for me!
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:37 PM
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23. Lol, what the fuck would you know about the left?
Can you even see us from where you stand on the political spectrum?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:39 PM
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24. I know that they don't have deep pockets..... unfortunately for them
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:06 PM
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27. Riiight.. that 150 MILLION he got off of small donations on the internet
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 02:07 PM by walldude
was nothing, he doesn't need that, he's doing just fine sucking money off the corporate tit...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:15 PM
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33. $250 of that was from me.... but its not the same as what the big donors gave
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:16 PM
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8. And what are the typical margins of victory?
You saying there's nothing wrong with spotting the competition a 12% lead?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:22 PM
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13. 6%. 12% of the half that are Democrats.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:23 PM
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14. What utter bs. nt
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:24 PM
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16. What is? poll after poll after poll shows 85%-90% of Democrats approve of him
...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:42 PM
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25. Like this one that shows 77% and trending down?
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama-dems.php

You know, I don't the president ill. But you can't bash your base for months for being too liberal, especially when you need the young people to come out for you, and expect good things to happen.
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moksha Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:45 PM
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30. Actually, it is down to 80% support from Dems.
And only 72% support from Liberals.

The trend is going downward.


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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:54 PM
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36. I told the pollster I supported him
cause this is a family feud, but don't think for a moment I am thrilled with his performance, I am disgusted with a lot of his performance
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:20 PM
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9. It worked ever so well for LBJ.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:25 PM
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17. If you have DIRECT VOTES on your state ballot
please don't let the Washington D.C. Democratic Party keep you from voting on issues that directly affect your life in the state or city where you live.

Not that I think this is what's going on - this is just another insult added to injury in general.

However, don't let the bullshit keep you from addressing what impacts you WHERE YOU LIVE.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:35 PM
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21. Hilarious. If you think he was referring to you, YOU ARE NOT THE BASE.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:36 PM
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22. I want Canadian Health Care, I guess I am a fucking idiot!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:01 PM
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26. They want to lose seats,
A new round of why they can't do it.

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moksha Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:46 PM
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31. Yep more excuses for being ineffective.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:41 PM
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34. It's almost as if they are TRYING to lose.
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