Robert Gibbs symbolizes what the Obama admin. really thinks of the left

[quinnox]

I think this latest outburst shows what Obama and his people really think of the left, and they have felt this way all along. It has been shown loud and clear by their actions, not just words. This latest incident just confirms it.

According to this vision, the left who criticize Obama are mostly a bunch of rich professionals, aka, as limousine liberals, who are out of touch with the common people and have pie in the sky dreams and unrealistic expectations.

What about the poor people or people unemployed looking for work? Nah, no way they could get access to a computer or the internet anyway to post their complaints, right? (sarcasm) The administration just showed how out of touch and how much in a bubble they are with their angry outbursts.

[babylonsister]

1. You're full of hot air. Regarding computers, if this admin

thought that, why did they reach us all via the internet during the primaries? Why does Obama give Saturday am chats?

Nice try, but lots and lots of hot air.

[quinnox]

9. You are a true believer

There is no convincing some people.

[blindpig]

11. What, is he running? n/t

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[Touchdown]

63. Bow down some more. It makes the royal court better for filming.

[Nite Owl]

2. They are really clueless.

[county worker]

3. Gibbs gave a lot of people here just what they were looking for.

Recognition. I've been waiting for a sign that the WH has ears.

I agree with the issues of the "professional left." I don't agree with the way many are conducting themselves. Yes they have legitimate gripes. The thing is everyone has legitimate gripes. Very few get heard like the left has.

[Bluebear]

4. 'I don't agree with the way many are conducting themsleves.' - How??

[county worker]

69. I waited to reply to this until now.

We have to act like adults to win the debate we are in. Those watching this will not support whining and stamping of feet like a kid in a grocery store whose mother won't buy the cereal with the prize in it that they want.

I'm not saying Obama is mother and we are kids. But our behavior should be mature so that we get the respect and possibly the things that we want.

Posts here that are mainly flame bait on this issue are a waste of time.

Take a lesson from Olbermann's comments last night.

[aquart]

7. Heard? You mean Ignored, don't you?

[marmar]

8. 'Very few get heard like the left has'

Really? In what country?

[joeybee12]

5. Yup, and it slipped out druing that benefit in Beverly Hills at that gay protester

utter contempt.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. That was a very telling moment indeed

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[Herr Garbitsch]

10. I'm having a hard time believing that you just realized that you had

this thought.

[AtomicKitten]

12. LOL.

[quinnox]

14. true believers

We know that whatever Obama decides or policy he proposes, it doesn't matter, and you would support it 100 percent while cheering wildly like at a high school football game.

[AtomicKitten]

17. LOL! You have NO CLUE what the WH really thinks and

even less than a clue about what I think.

So you erect a strawman to burn down to assuage your icky feelings.

[EFerrari]

24. The White House has been dogwhistling since before they were even moved in.

You don't have to be Kreskin to pick up on what they carefully put out into the public square.

If *you* don't have a clue, that's another matter.

[AtomicKitten]

25. I stand with 85% of the party; you the 12%.

12% is what clueless looks like.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/obama-and-liberals.html

[EFerrari]

27. It really don't matter how many times you post that link.

You are just engaging in the same, divisive, destructive behavior that Gibbs did.

The DLC might thing this will work for them but then, they never could win elections for cr@p.

[AtomicKitten]

30. It is the 12% that are engaging in "divisive and destructive behavior"

Get that part straight.

[EFerrari]

34. Right. The wholly fictional "12%" has just the same amount of influence

as the President's spokesman and his Chief of Staff!

LOL

[AtomicKitten]

38. The 12%'s posturing on the interweb is tantamount to screaming into a paper bag. nt

[EFerrari]

42. You don't get out much, do you? n/t

[AtomicKitten]

46. LOL.

[EFerrari]

55. You'd have to be housebound to think this is limited to the intertubes in any way.

I know just about every big Democratic donor in my area and fly knows them in hers. We both are getting the same reports. Not happy.

But you hang onto that 12% bs if it helps you.

[AtomicKitten]

57. 85% >12%: See you at the polls in November and again in 2012. nt

[EFerrari]

I love spam, too.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama-dems.php

[AtomicKitten]

62. Then you'll like this new Pew poll: 90% approval among liberal Democrats.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x404542

He gets nearly unanimous approval from liberal Democrats (90%).

[G_j]

66. so impressed

let us how you do without the real activists.

[Change has come]

68. excellent job on the copy/paste technique!

Very professional! :hi:

[no limit]

71. 35% of democrats extremely excited to vote in November Vs 53% republicans

But by all means, keep up that attitude.

[walldude]

44. Ok since being in the majority and being right seems to be a big thing with you

Please justify these positions as a liberal. Please tell me why I and the other "12%" are wrong about: (and I'll list just a few, because us clueless people can't think about more than a couple things at a time)

Afghanistan: Why is this war so righteous?

Gay Rights: Why shouldn't gays be allowed to be married?

Appointments: Why was it smart to appoint a homophobic global warming denier to the oil spill disaster team? Why is it smart to appoint a lobbyist for Health Care companies to oversee the implementation of the new Health Care bill?

Because I am one of the clueless 12% I have no idea why the war should continue, why gays shouldn't marry and why we should be appointing people who have a monetary stake in their decisions to important posts. Please fill me in on these things as I am clueless.

Or are you saying the 85% aren't liberals?

[Bluebear]

72. :crickets:

[frylock]

65. then why are y'all so worried about president palin in 2012?

it's in the bag, right? RIGHT?!!

[no limit]

70. Great poll, have you seen this one:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/06/gop-voters-enthusiasm-democrats-/1

This is a few months old, it's gone down even more since.

But yeah, keep your shit up, I'm sure it will work out great for the establishment when November comes.

[quiet.american]

15. Gibbs said nothing that inferred he considers "the left" to largely be wealthy liberals.

I couldn't agree more with every word he said. About time somebody at the top told it like it is.

I'm loving Robert Gibbs right about now.

(This OP just further proves what he's talking about. The OP takes his remarks to make them what the OP considers them to be about, which has no relation to reality.)

[Bluenorthwest]

19. Well you are very far off base

Gibbs did great damage to the President with these words, and unless that is what you are after, this is not good news for anyone. This Gibbs takes piles of taxpayer money to do a job he can not even do well.
How did he serve his President with these words? He made mocking references to a Democratic Congressman currently running for office against a Republican. How does that serve the Party, the President or the Democratic voters and volunteers of Ohio's 10th?

[quiet.american]

22. Let's talk about Gibbs' comments re: the professional left.

I'll say upfront I'm not a big fan of Gibbs and thought he was wrong for the position from the start. But today, he has my full support.

Let's not pretend that many here don't seem to live to, on a daily basis, post nothing but misleading or outright nonsense about Pres. Obama.

Gibbs remarks aren't going to change those who support the President into non-supporters of the President. They'll just hurt the feelings of those who name-call this administration on a minute-by-minute basis anyway.

Even though the poutrage over this may cost Gibbs his job, it's just about worth it in my book.

I agree with every damn word he said.



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[Bluenorthwest]

29. Well we are of a mind in general about Gibbs

Wrong for the gig. But to me, this is just more proof of his lack of ability. I'm not a stranger to the press, and from my point of view, he made a giant stink where he could have, if less involved with his own ego, make some bridge building. To make waves of any kind is just not the role of a spokesperson. The product is the star, always. He is there to serve the President. And that is not what he did.
You use the word 'poutrage' which is indicative of the problem. Gibbs himself is pouting, from a position of weakness. Those of us who do want universal health care, equal rights for all, or a less insane military budget are not pouting. They are simply correct about these issues.
Gibbs also calls out a current Democratic candidate for Congress for some sneering, and that, that is not at all cool. Volunteers are out working to elect him, and Gibbs, for 172,000 tax payer dollars a year, slams him a few weeks out from the election.
Stupid politics is just stupid politics.

[quiet.american]

31. No doubt, Gibbs will be made to pay.

But I still support every word he said.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. Then you support really bad communications which

slam voters, elected Democrats, use hyperbole and unsupported assertions, arch insinuations and every aspect of the McCarthy play book. Tail Gunner Gibbs will be held accountable, as the highly compensated public servant that he is. Man, even you admit he was always a poor fit for the job. He is supposed to represent, never ever do harm. He did harm. He made the President look petty and needful.

[quiet.american]

43. Not in my book.

Many here on this board are very pleased to daily slam the President and Democrats with "hyperbole and unsupported assertions, arch insinuations and every aspect of the McCarthy play book."

Now when Gibbs tells it like he sees it, look at the wailling-and-gnashing of teeth at getting some of their own back.

I love him for the callout.

[Touchdown]

16. Poor? Unemployed? In need of healthcare? Gay soldiers? Ponies!

[quiet.american]

20. Even as you snark, I've just watched the House vote to extend Medicaid and save jobs.

That's the DEMOCRATS in the House voted in the majority to do that.

Your snark is just the kind of nonsense Gibbs is talking about.

[Touchdown]

21. A special session during a recess, when it should have been passed a year ago.

Do your knees ever hurt from kneeling too much?

[quiet.american]

23. This is the third attempt to get it passed in spite of Republican obstruction.

Over the past year.

Bring yourself up to speed. I would suggest what else you should do, but DU rules prohibit it.

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[quiet.american]

28. I don't care where you just got back from. You don't seem to know what the flip you're talking about

I would expect more from someone who claims to be so involved.

[Touchdown]

32. I can't help what your brain "seems" to think.

You know nothing about me, and to assume you do is presumptuous. Back off!

[quiet.american]

33. I'm responding to you based solely on your posts.

Nothing more.

[Touchdown]

35. Then I suggest you take up reading lessons

I don't type enough for you to know me. Back off!

[quiet.american]

36. I'm responding to your posts here in this thread.

Nothing more.

[Touchdown]

40. Are you done yet?

Because Im a bit tired of you trying to be my father.

Back off must not be sending the message very well.

[quiet.american]

45. Do people usually "back off" just because you demand it?

I didn't think so.

[Touchdown]

47. No they usually give up when they realize they have nothing

Apparently that isn't so with you.

[quiet.american]

49. I'm the only one in this conversation who has offered facts.

Why should I come to a realization that's it me who has "nothing."

It was the very posting of a fact in our exchange that seems to have made you go ballistic.

[Touchdown]

50. No you offered nothing but an order to shut up, by using a vote

I knew was going to happen anyway. Facts? It is a fact that you are attempting to browbeat me into submission. It's also a fact that I don't take orders from you.

[quiet.american]

51. No, but apparently you'd prefer that I take orders from you?

Who was it who first used a vulgar suggestion in our conversation?

Boy, those reps must have loved you.

[Touchdown]

52. I don't talk to them that way. They treat people with respect

:hi:

[quiet.american]

53. You could take a lesson from that. nt

[Touchdown]

56. I'm not the one who needs the lesson.

Have a nice day, Daddy!

[quiet.american]

59. I guess now is a good time to tell you it should be, "Mommy!"

I'm not a guy.

And have a nice day, too, dear. :hug:

[Touchdown]

60. Love you too, patronizing Mommy Dearest.

[quiet.american]

61. If that's the worst I'm ever called, I'd consider myself lucky. nt

[JI7]

37. Obama should support work camps for the poor in exchange for food and housing

is that what "the left" wants ?

[LWolf]

41. As the Washington Post said,

<snip>

It's a rare political strategy that takes on the party base in a midterm election year, but the White House apparently sees no problem in doing so.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/08/gibbs-condemns-criticism-from.html

[TheKentuckian]

54. Gotta get those non-existent "sensible centrists" and the way to it seems to be to jettison the

liberals.

They ain't about shit but trying to re-frame the political spectrum in the party and the country to the corporate right.

As you can see from message discipline the mission is to utterly silence and subjugate or expel by raising the ante some.

[LWolf]

58. Yes.

So far, representatives from the Obama administration have called us "retarded," and now we are "unrepresentative of liberals" (a blatant example of re-framing), we ought to be drug-tested, we're "crazy," etc..

It's clear that, despite the huge efforts to marginalize us, the WH is very clear about who we are and where we stand, and they don't like it. The don't like the fact that we have a voice, and they don't care to represent us.

[JDPriestly]

48. What does he mean by the "professional left"?

Is he talking about the hundreds of thousands if not millions of professionals with more degrees than he could dream of having being left out of the lousy job market and the stimulus package?

Is he talking about the professional politicians like President Obama who don't really know what is going on in the country because they only talk to people rich enough to give them money?

Obama is making the same mistake that his recent predecessors in the White House have made. He surrounds himself with sycophants and opportunists who know just how to push his buttons so that they get the personal advantages they want for themselves. I won't name names. Just look at his economic team.

He can pout and complain all he wants, but the fact remains, he has the power to change things. We don't. If he doesn't listen to those who are probably much wiser and more experienced in reality than the sycophants and opportunists who have endeared themselves to him, he will fail. And with him the whole nation will fail. And the effect that will have on the future of humanity and perhaps our planet will fall on his shoulders and those of his and all of our children.

Obama should listen to the professional liberals. We are intelligent, well educated and know what we are talking about. Robert Gibbs does not. Neither do Geithner and Bernanke. And had Summers understood economics and banking one fourth as well as he claims to, we would not be in the mess we are in. If Obama does not like the situation in our economy, then he should ask Summers why Summers and Rubin got us into this mess in the first place. Did male chauvinism have something to do with it?

[laughingliberal]

64. And for those poor souls who do manage internet access, destroying net neutrality will fix that! nt

[scheming daemons]

67. No... it's what the Obama admin thinks of the 10% on the fringe... not the majority