Obama: on FR, a Marxist Leftist Commie, on DU a RW tool

[K8-EEE]

Looking at these Obama attacks on both forums I can't help but think, he's got the hardest job of any President. He's the one who inherited post-BushCo America with its endless crisises and divisions.

It really makes me want to have a toast to him! Love him or hate him, you have to admire his grace under fire.

:toast:

[Warren Stupidity]

1. The fall campaign theme is "we are rightwing commie haters too!"

there will be a consequent lack of motivation from the left to support this administration.

[K8-EEE]

5. If the left and right both hate you

Does that make you a "centrist?" Does such a thing even exist?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. he's not even Gemini

[sendero]

3. During the Bush years..

... Bush a hero on free republic and a villian here.

What is your point?

[K8-EEE]

4. Right?

Tonight it looks like Obama is a villain here AND there....for this silly Gibbs comment? Did we forget what real villains (Bush, Cheney, Scooter, the whole cabal) are like?

[MrModerate]

8. Doesn't mean that pols shouldn't be bitchslapped when they're stupid . . .

Even if they are, putatively, on our side.

Gibbs is in no way a villain in the Bushco mold. But he says dumb shit way too often for most progressives' taste. Time for him to seek out other career opportunities.

[K8-EEE]

13. Really, bitchslapped?

I guess I see he bitchslapping as unnecessary and an overreaction in this particular situation, just IMO.

[MrModerate]

30. And that's why they have horse races. IMO Gibbs' action . . .

Which one presumes is approved of at the very top, hands 'Licans a whole armory full of ammunition with which to shoot at genuinely progressive figures, and hands the media talking points about "extreme leftists" and "Democratic disunity" that'll keep them vibrating for days.

It was not only obnoxious, but politically foolish. I see no upside.

And it didn't need to happen -- even if he was expressing Oval Office opinions, Gibbs didn't need to hand the wingnuts sound bites like candy.

Bad judgment, bad timing, bad messaging. Slap him around, I say!

[sendero]

9. The old...

... (in my best whiny voice) "but the Republicans are worse " argument holds no water for me. Democrats that act like Republicans are of no use to me and I won't vote for them.

[K8-EEE]

18. Your choice but I can only hope that

The Tea Partyers who will only vote for 1%-ers like Duncan Hunter will outnumber the DUers who will only vote for Dennis Kucinich.

[TheKentuckian]

25. Well then lock them the fuck up. Do something about the evil criminals besides making them the

Boogieman to scare folks with.

"Not looking back" while screaming about the Devil chasing us is a hell of a load.

Yeah, he is dogging our heels but only because he is enabled and aided by our own demons and that is on us.

[rug]

6. DU has always been more insightful than FR.

[Touchdown]

7. Only one of us can be correct. It's time you chose.

:evilgrin:

[K8-EEE]

11. Or, neither is correct

Politics being the art of the possible. It's not always possible to make you happy.

[Touchdown]

14. If you take yourself too seriously, perhaps.

I'm done with the infighting for the day. What I wrote was a joke. Try and remember what those were.

[K8-EEE]

19. Sorry I missed the obvious high-larity in your post!

Still missing it....

[Touchdown]

20. I can't help you with that.

I'll move on.

[caledesi]

10. Agree! nt

[TheKentuckian]

12. One difference would be they started that shit before they knee his name

Meanwhile, we were making the calls, eating beans and ramen to fund him, knocking on doors, taking folks top the polls, pitching everyone we encountered, and voted for the man.

The false equilivency frame is totally silly on many levels, this not the least of them.

Its also plain faulty thinking as it ignores the massive dissatisfaction from independents and that the entirety of the openly right is far right.

The reality is that the very satisfied are the outliers and they need to figure out what they actually stand for and decide who they will compromise with to have a working coalition or give the keys back to the Republicans.

I'll remind you that you've been blowing the pukes for moving toward two years and they are growing more batshit crazy by the second to the point that they will not take policy they write out of obstinate hated and desire to destroy for the people by the people government.

[BootinUp]

15. K&R for Truth thats impossible to deny.

[Scurrilous]

16. Amazing ain't it.

:thumbsup:

[madmax]

17. Definately agree

Here's to you, Barack :toast:

[Scurrilous]

43. ..

:thumbsup:

[JoseGaspar]

21. Triangulation works...

It worked for Bubba, too.

What's your point?

[Canuckistanian]

22. Well, then. The truth MUST be in the MIDDLE somewhere

Somewhere around non-quite Democrat and Republican appeaser.

How'd I do?

[krabigirl]

23. He's a corporatist like Bush and Clinton. Well, maybe HE isn't, but the people behind him are.

Nothing will change...I just don't see how it's possible..

[K8-EEE]

24. Serious question: can a non-corporatist win an election in the US?

It seems to me unless we find a way to take the enormous money out of the system, the answer is no. So if Clinton and Obama are corporatists, and Bush and Cheney are corporatists (by the definition of taking corporate donations) I'll take Obama.

[Touchdown]

26. Another serious question. If they can't, is The US worth saving?

Something to ponder while we look in shock at the idiocy of Sarah Palin, Rand Paul and Sharon Angle and wonder what happened to us as a nation.

[K8-EEE]

28. Yes that is a good question but

it only seems logical to me that we try to pull in the right direction, for instance the supreme court I feel is going in a much better direction than if McCain was picking. We try to get the best of what we can pull off and work for progress, rather than demanding perfection and ending up going full speed the other way (like BushCo.) I guess I'm not ready to give up but realistically this is going to be a slow process.

[Change has come]

27. un-rec

not so subtle flame bait. Glad you're enjoying yourself though! :hi:

[K8-EEE]

29. Un-recing a zero? LOL

OK! Glad YOU'RE enjoying yourself!

[Change has come]

31. You used the caps key.

THIS must be important!

[McCamy Taylor]

32. And Obama did not say a word. The Hill headline just implies he did.

[Bluebear]

33. Then it would be easy for Obama to set the record straight tomorrow, no?

[Touchdown]

35. Oh' no you don't! I'm not holding my breath again! You do it!

I got blue in the face over the "Just how icky are those homos?" DADT survey waiting for the President to do the right thing.

Not this time. You're turn!

[girl gone mad]

34. As Jim Hightower says..

there's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

No country for old centrists.

[Jamastiene]

36. Get a room.

[NJmaverick]

37. K&R

[seabeyond]

38. i hit recommend, not that it did any good. but yes, that stands out.

on FR, a Marxist Leftist Commie, on DU a RW tool

[K8-EEE]

40. Apparently not, LOL

But thanks just the same!

[bvar22]

39. Hell YES!!!

WHATEVER is in the MIDDLE is good enough for ME!
.
.
AND, its SO much easier!
You don't have to know anything about Issues and Policy and all that other boring stuff.
ALL you need to know is, "Its In the MIDDLE!"
It doesn't even matter that The Middle changes every year!

"Centrism"....because its sooo EASY!
You don't have to STAND for ANYTHING,
and get to insult those who do!
:party:

K & Fucking R!!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

41. +1

:thumbsup:

[Touchdown]

42. The fallacy of moderation or golden mean

I had to ask somebody last night about it.

Yes. God is all knowing and created the Universe, or does not exist. I'll go with God knows a lot of shit and created part of the Universe.

Cuz everybody knows that wanting a public option and criticizing it's omission and calling the President a muslim terrorist from Kenya come from EXACTLY the same unhinged extremist thinking.:eyes: