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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:29 PM
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The Second as Farce
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 10:31 PM by alcibiades_mystery
People make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a mountain on the brains of the living.(1)

It was spring 1998, and the war drums were beating. You may remember. President Clinton sent a few luminaries - including Secretary Albright - out to Ohio somewhere to put on a townhall, presumably to sell a step-up of aggressive action against Iraq. They were shouted down in the hall. At about that same time, the President himself came out to San Francisco, where I was living at the time, for what purpose I can't remember. We met him in force, filling Huntington Park, lining California and Sacramento streets, kept from Mason by a tight cordon of police: end the sanctions; stop US aggression against Iraq. Those were some years. This I remember: I never expected or even really wanted the approval of the Democratic president. We were leftists and activists; we put our bodies on the line against global capital; Seattle was the culmination of years of little Seattles - the arrest records and moderate immunity to tear gas we carry to this day attest to it. And we knew full well that the US government was an arm of global capital. About that, at least, we had no illusions. The bombing, in any case, was shelved...until December of that year, anyway.

As a lyric from one of my favorite bands goes, "Oh my God, it was a million years ago."

I've been greeted with so many accusations of centrism here that it may surprise some to hear that I am a Marxist. I make no apologies for it. Marx was correct in most of his analyses of the then emerging industrial capitalism, and in his critiques of then existing discourse of political economy. But his greater contribution was to say something like this: you can only be a Marxist by not being a Marxist. You have to do your own analysis, of your own historical occasion, and that analysis must begin with material conditions (Let's start with this simple item, the commodity...), what people actually do, how they relate to each other and things, actions, and the circumstances not of their making.

Now, the curious thing about being a Marxist is that you don't really expect your understanding of things to enter into the discourse of government or policy in any concrete way. Perhaps it's defeatist or comforting to take a long view. I won't bother psychoanalyzing it. But if I might analogize, it would be something like this: capitalism (and there have been at least three mutations of this "thing" called capitalism since Marx died) is, for lack of a better comparative, a cancer. And we all, of course, hope for a cure for cancer, and some of us work on finding such cures, or improving the means we have of combating it. But we know that when we walk for breast cancer research that breast cancer won't be cured at the finish line. Maybe this is what some people call "incrementalism." I call it attention to material conditions. Chip here, chip there. Help the ones you can help; make others at least comfortable. Do no harm. Get the best you can out of a bad situation, with a view toward changing it, but necessarily a long view. And it's a long view not because you want it to be, but because these material things, these cells keep making themselves, the problems they present are complex and when you solve one, three others crop up. It's a long view because the material makes it so. You do not get to make history just as you please.

Never trust anyone over thirty, I guess, for that reason. Twenty-five, soaked bandana over my face, pro bono lawyer's phone number inked on my arm. And a smile on my face; I remember that too. Stand or sit: here comes the kick. Oh my God, it was a million years ago. But the one thing that hasn't changed all that much is my estimation of the capacity of the US government: I didn't then and I don't now give one damn what the US government thinks of me or of the work that needs to be done. That work cannot be accomplished by this kind of government. But here's the important point: that doesn't mean that the government can't accomplish some things. Chemotherapy can't eradicate cancer, but it can eradicate particular cancers affecting actual people. It is also awful. In all those years, and the years since, I'm not convinced that I ever met one leftist - in person, a real activist, in the neighborhoods, in the factories - I'm not sure I ever met one who cared in the least bit what the press secretary of the president of these United States thought about him or her.

Obama is both right and wrong about this: "You have to make me do it." He's right to the extent that pressure is necessary for those things that this kind of government can do, and I applaud those here who understand that. He's wrong to the extent that it still assumes that social change is necessarily mediated by capitalist government. It is not. Get into the neighborhoods and factories and offices. Invent something else. Critical thought - and Marx was quite right about this as well - can't be just about critique. It has to be about production. So produce something.


(1) Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:40 AM
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1. This was the fastest sinking thread EVAH!
Love y'all nonetheless. Here a guy is pouring his heart out and all...;-)

One kick for morning crew, then I'll let it sink like a stone.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:42 AM
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6. There is a simple explanation. You didn't have "Gibbs" or "Palin" in your title
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 11:44 AM by corkhead
:spank:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:14 PM
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7. Heh
I agonized over that...

;-)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:54 AM
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2. I think you're dead-on
Obama is both right and wrong about this: "You have to make me do it." He's right to the extent that pressure is necessary for those things that this kind of government can do, and I applaud those here who understand that. He's wrong to the extent that it still assumes that social change is necessarily mediated by capitalist government. It is not. Get into the neighborhoods and factories and offices. Invent something else. Critical thought - and Marx was quite right about this as well - can't be just about critique. It has to be about production. So produce something.

Exactly so.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:16 AM
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3. It's really the part that I find the most puzzling among the self-proclaimed leftists here
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:16 AM by alcibiades_mystery
This notion that this kind of government is actually the route to successful social change. And I say it's puzzling because I don't think I ever believed that for a second in all those years of direct action, and I still don't believe it now. I'll admit that this leads to a kind of split consciousness, where you support the good things that happen in this kind of government, while really knowing the limits of what the government can do (and the limits it imposes!).

I think much of the hand-wringing on the left is actually a good thing, because it shows us "liberals" becoming leftists. In other words, people who thought this kind of government was the answer are starting to see that it is a limited tool (and a limiting one). This is not a bad result in the long run, but it leads to endless stupidities in the short run, precisely because one confuses a kind of tool for social change (one among many) for social change itself. Hence all the nonsense on these boards, where one side says "The tool is a good one - and the only one" and the other side says "The tool is a bad one - but the only one!" They're both wrong. What we may need is a Critique of Pure Reason for the left (a Critique of Left Reason?) - that which shows you the limits of what you can do with this kind of government/faculty.

But we really need inventors more than we need critics. We've known the limits of this kind of government for quite some time, even if much of the liberals-leftists are just discovering them now, as if after a long sleep. We need people inventing new tools.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:37 AM
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4. I think somebody even unrec'd it since I read it last night... But it's a thoughtful
...piece, and this board isn't really a home to "thoughtful" posts right now -- mostly just provocative ones. Everyone at DU has internalized the factionalism of politics in general.

I agree that invention is key if the 21st century is to be survived in any remotely "intact" way.

Out of curiosity, did you have any types of inventions in mind?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:11 AM
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5. Ha...this thing's been unrecced at least five times
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 10:13 AM by alcibiades_mystery
by my count. For what reason - other than it's generally self-congratulatory and boring - I cannot imagine.

Plenty of people working on plenty of inventive social and activist strategies, but that's not really the purpose of this post. ;-) What we really need to do is "invent a people." Many of the social categories that served us well in the 20th century are outdated with respect to material life, which is why they don't function the same way in public discourse. But generally, we carry on with these social categories, and get upset when people don't respond to them produictively. Well, of course they don't, since you've made the social category into an idea that precedes people's material circumstances!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:15 PM
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8. Fascinating post
And I'm one of those who had you pegged as a centrist, or a DLC apologist, or something dire like that -- though I don't believe I ever accused you of it.

I've been thinking lately about something Stewart Brand once wrote -- that when he founded the Whole Earth Catalog in 1968, he was trying to get away from the left's strategy of grassroots organizing and instead empower people directly by giving them access to the tools to do things for themselves.

That's got a certain plausibility, all the more so in these days of the internet, but it only goes so far. You can give people the tools to grow their own organic produce, but that doesn't get rid of the factory farms. You can give them blogs and Twitter to help find like-minded dissidents, but that doesn't get rid of Fox News or the military-industrial complex.

On the other hand, grassroots organizing -- whether to pressure the government or to take it to the streets -- hasn't accomplished all that much lately either.

You say incrementalism -- but the real question is incrementalism in what direction. There's a Sufi saying which goes something like, "Oh seeker of wisdom, you will never arrive at Mecca if you're on the road to China."

So part of the problem may be that we need better road maps.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:50 PM
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9. We're using a lot of metaphors in this thread, but here's my issue with incrementalism:
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 05:50 PM by villager
We're going to be coming up against, very soon, a hugely "non-incremental" shift in our relationship to the planet.

I'm not talking about us gaining "eco-wisdom," because evidently, we won't. But the planet doesn't care. It will be letting us know we've reached some rather pronounced "limits," and then there won't really be the political/historical space for "incrementalism," so -- what is it that we build for ourselves then?

We may need Stewart Brand's tool catalogs more than we realize, at that point!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:21 PM
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10. Here's what I think about incrementalism
Sometimes it's destructive, such as in the civil rights issues. At the same time, sometimes it's necessary that lasting change is incremental. For example, I think that half of the opposition to Bush in this country came from the way he simply assumed he could do whatever he wanted, so he instituted his policies and said screw you to anyone who didn't like them. Given the mood of the country as it is now, unfortunately I think a lot more people would have been on board for even the worst of his policies if he were more gradual in implementing them. What that may mean for us is that, if we want lasting change in the way we as a country do things, we may be able to achieve it only through an incremental approach.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:26 PM
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11. But doesn't incrementalism assume a stability in everything else?
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 06:35 PM by villager
When faced with a very non-incremental environmental or economic crisis (or, as is looming, both) -- what then?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:33 PM
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13. Just to be clear again
I'm not arguing for incrementalism in the OP. I'm arguing for attention to material conditions. Crisis - environmental or otherwise - tends to be a material condition that offers more room for action (and, not incidentally, invention).
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:36 PM
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14. Well, I certainly agree with you there!
n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:32 PM
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12. You're certainly right
That something like "incrementalism" is ridiculous in a crisis situation. the problem, of course, is that it is all crisis. So I'm not really talking about "incrementalism," and I'm now sorry i used the word. What I mean is material constraints and openings, and that no amount of wanting can bump up against those without friction, and, often, blockage. I also think you're right about environmental destruction putting severe pressure on modes of strategies for change - and it is also a material condition that cannot be ignored. I'm certainly not arguing here that we can ignore it. Severe crisis often offers opportunities. It's a sad fact that it has to get there, but that's how shit tends to work.
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