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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:19 AM
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Group: Prop 19 Would Mean Pot-Smoking at Work
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 09:22 AM by Roon
If marijuana was legal for adults in California, would more people show up at work high? And how would that change the definition of a "smoke break" during work hours?

That's the latest issue facing proponents of Proposition 19, the ballot measure that would make marijuana legal for adults in California.

Voters will have a chance in November to decide whether to legalize marijuana for recreational purposes for adults over 21 but the political debate over the controversial issue has been heating up for quite some time. The latest argument against the ballot measure is that given the legal freedom to smoke pot, people will be high at work
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Group-Prop-19-Would-Mean-Pot-Smoking-at-Work-100625869.html

When I was a kid,I was doing day labor at a construction site. The supervisor would announce break time by walking in the room and saying in a deep voice...."BONG HITS"..then he would mimic doing a bong.

We would all pile into his camper that he had on the back ot the truck and do bong hits before returning to work. That was a good work day! :-)

ON EDIT:My ex father-father-inlaw worked at the coors brewery in golden...everyone is allowed to have two beers during lunch. Sure it's 3.2, but still.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:40 AM
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1. What the hell is the matter with them anyway?
All a company has to do is to institute a "No Smoking" policy inside the building.

OK, so nobody smokes at work. No pipes, no cigars, no cigarettes, no pot.

But even if pot ISN'T legal, what's to stop people from smoking it during their lunch hours in their own cars?

This, in fact, is exactly what an old boyfriend of mine (and some of his friends) used to do during lunch. They would leave the building, go down to the small shopping center, park alongside the trees and light up.

Oh, and my ex was an electrician...in all the time he worked with electricity (and smoked pot) he never once electrocuted himself or anyone else.

I'd rather see people smoke pot on their breaks than drink, which was also what some of the guys used to do. I actually saw one guy piss in front of the liquor store at High Noon one day.

More idiocy happens with alcohol than with pot...



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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:47 AM
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2. its a lot like premarital sex
sure, you ain't supposed to do it, but lots and lots and lots of people do it anyway.
Same with smoking pot. I've been on jobs that reeked of pot and I'd prefer dealing with the folks who smoke than with a guy who had a couple of boilermakers at lunch. Pot heads don't tend to get abusive at anywhere near the rate that whiskey drinkers do.


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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:48 AM
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3. What a stupid statement
Alcohol is legal in California. Does that mean that an employer has to allow their employees to drink at work?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:01 PM
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12. Hell, I have a flask that I can fit in my pocket. Small, but holds enough to get the job done.
If I wanted to, I could go and get drunk before work. But I don't want to, just like i don't want to get high before work.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:50 AM
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4. What a phony baloney objection to legalization.
There's nothing stopping any company from having a "no intoxication" rule at work, which I'm guessing 99% of companies already have. Anyone who waits for legalization before smoking pot is not going to suddenly start flaunting the rules and getting high at work. This is just stupid.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 10:38 AM
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5. Wait, you mean like people can be drunk at work? Or on Xanax? Amazing. Idiots.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 10:53 AM
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6. Just a sign of desperation
They succeeded in spreading their "reefer madness" lies during the 1970's, but the old fogies who remember that movie when it showed in theatres are all dead now. It's a last gasp, because marijuana is finally going to become legal in the US, and California will lead the way.

Once we have it legalized in one place, the rest of the blue states will probably follow suit, since they really don't want to subsidize the CA economy at the expense of their own states' coffers.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:08 PM
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14. "Old fogies from the 70's" are all dead now?
I saw that movie in the 70's and I'm still alive. My parent are dead but many people the age they would be are still alive.

At any rate, I didn't believe the crap in that movie when I saw it and I don't know anyone who did.

Plenty of 'young fogies' I've seen around here pushing stupid arguments against legalization.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:13 PM
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21. The original Reefer Madness film
was released in 1938. The generation that was its' school-age targets were indeed fogies by the time that marijuana reform was undertaken in the early 1970's. Yes, the younger people all laughed their butts off at it when we "rediscovered" the film, but the people who were raised on the demonization of marijuana had enough political power to use its' untruths as a way to keep marijuana criminalized.

But, you're right, there is a disturbing number of younger people who seem to have found new reasons to fear a fairly harmless plant.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:29 PM
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17. yea, thats what we dead old fogies said back in the 70's, 80's, 90's
it seems to have momentum, time will tell.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:45 PM
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25. Every decade
we're losing people who are against marijuana, and equal marriage. It was the loss of the most hardcore racists that allowed the 1960's civil rights legislation to finally get passed a century after the end of slavery.

Sometimes, those with irrational reasons just need to die off for there to be progress, if they cannot be educated.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 11:04 AM
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7. COOL !!! ... er, I Mean... That's Just CRAZY !!!
:smoke:

:evilgrin:

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:11 PM
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8. REEFER MADNESS!!!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 12:31 PM
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9. Who will have time to work, what with all the raping and the jumping out of windows? n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 01:26 PM
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10. And when they're not raping and pillaging and leaping from the windows...
the potheads will be staging mass riots for 8 one-hour long munchies breaks a day.





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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 02:35 PM
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11. I don't care if they smoke at work
Just as long as they do it out by the dumpsters where the tobacco smokers smoke.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:04 PM
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13. I used to go out in the alley with friends
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 03:04 PM by Blue_In_AK
and smoke a joint every day when I worked at the Crocker Bank headquarters in San Francisco in 1969. I did my job, the world didn't end.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:18 PM
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15. Be more fun if we all did LSD at work. . .
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:22 PM
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16. Can you imagine if, say, Jerry Garcia had been smoking pot while he worked?
It's inconceivable!


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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:32 PM
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18. Ive never heard of such madness! Inconceivable!
:hippie: :smoke:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:33 PM
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19. I would be all in favor of this. No joke.
If my coworkers got toked up before an 8-hour day it would go a lot quicker.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 03:34 PM
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20. The bastards are grasping at the short straws now.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:24 PM
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22. Well, it's not like they don't show up at work high
anyway. I shared an office with a pot smoker. It was obvious she was stoned when she came to work. However, I doubt if smoking on the job will be permitted, anymore than drinking is in most places. I know breweries are laxer about that. The two martini lunch also has gone by way of the dodo bird and not soon enough. I hated having to deal with a bunch of well lit execs every day in the afternoon. It wasn't fun dealing with the pot smoker either. Recreational drugs don't belong in the workplace.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:26 PM
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23. Ah jesus...
If your company doesn't let you work DRUNK, it won't let you work STONED. How damn hard is this to figure out?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:34 PM
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24. We already have an open keg at work.
:shrug:

Just send 'em to the smoking area, and if they can't handle themselves, they'll soon be out of work for poor performance.
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