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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:42 AM
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The Professional Left Name Their 25 Worst Figures In America
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 08:07 AM by meegbear
Right Wing Bloggers Name Their 25 Worst Figures In America

There they go again...

The blog Right Wing News asked "more than a hundred bloggers" who they thought were the worst people in American history. The results may shock you! Or maybe not. (..)

This question was put out to over 100 crazies with internet connections:

Out of all the gangsters, serial killers, mass murderers, incompetent & crooked politicians, spies, traitors, and ultra left-wing kooks in all of American history — have you ever wondered who the worst of the worst was?"

(..)Here are the results, from 43 bloggers who responded:

23) Saul Alinsky (7)
23) Bill Clinton (7)
23) Hillary Clinton (7)
19) Michael Moore (7)
19) George Soros (8)
19) Alger Hiss (8)
19) Al Sharpton (8)
13) Al Gore (9)
13) Noam Chomsky (9)
13) Richard Nixon (9)
13) Jane Fonda (9)
13) Harry Reid (9)
13) Nancy Pelosi (9)
11) John Wilkes Booth (10)
11) Margaret Sanger (10)
9) Aldrich Ames (11)
9) Timothy McVeigh (11)
7) Ted Kennedy (14)
7) Lyndon Johnson (14)
5) Benedict Arnold (17)
5) Woodrow Wilson (17)
4) The Rosenbergs (19)
3) Franklin Delano Roosevelt (21)
2) Barack Obama (23)
1) Jimmy Carter (25)

I love the framing of the question: murderers, terrorists and "left-wing kooks". And what did these mental giants come up with? is Osama Bin Laden on the list? No. But FDR is. And he's WORSE than assassin John Wilkes Booth and domestic terrorist Tim McVeigh and traitors Aldrich Ames, Benedict Arnold and the Rosenbergs. And of course, the worst person in the history of the country is Jimmy Carter. Sorry Obama, you just missed the top spot.

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http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/right-wing-bloggers-name-their-25th-w


Well DU, I think it's only right correct that we compile our list of the 25 worst. So ...

"Out of all the gangsters, serial killers, mass murderers, incompetent & crooked politicians, spies, traitors, and ultra right-wing kooks in all of American history — have you ever wondered who the worst of the worst was?"

25. William Buckley
24. Joseph McCarthy
23. Grover Norquist
22. PhYllis Schlafly
21. George Wallace
20. Herbert Hoover
19. Tim LaHaye
18. Richard Nixon
17. Ann Coulter
16. Michele Bachmann
15. Dick Armey
14. Roger Ailes
13. Sarah Palin
12. Sean Hannity
11. Glenn Beck
10. Mitch McConnell
9. John Beohner
8. Newt Gingrich
7. Pat Robertson
6. Jerry Fallwell
5. Jesse Helms
4. Rupert Murdoch
3. Karl Rove
2. George W. Bush
1. Ronald Reagan


Now give your list - this is mine.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:44 AM
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1. Where is Sarah?
:rofl:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:58 AM
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6. Is there a slot for Professional Word Salad Maker?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:47 AM
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2. It depends on your motive.
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 08:41 AM by RandomThoughts
If you want no rules, to be able to step on anyone and take whatever you want.

Then for that person, someone like Carter or FDR would be bad.

When you say someone is good or bad, it is not only an evaluation of someone else, it is also about the person saying it.

They are really saying those people are against their ideals, and that kind of conversation should be used to illuminate the different ideals.

FDR Carter, and many others listed there did far better then me, based not only if I think them good or bad, but also by thinking what I think is good or bad.


Everyone makes mistakes, why there is grace in my view. And to make those type of criticism really hurts when you see all the good some of people on both those lists did.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:48 AM
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3. Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman
nt


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:50 AM
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4. Neither of these lists exhibit any sort of historical knowledge
Otherwise you would have people like Henry Ford and Thomas Watson in there.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:01 AM
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8. I would also add Woodrow Wilson
His activism for Jim Crow and the Palmer raids really make him stand out. Funny how he could make both lists. The main reason Jimmy Carter gets pilloried is that he was really one of them. Being a religious fundy and and anti union to boot. They can't stand stand anyone that puts a D behind their name and doesn't agree with them 100%. If he was from the North he would have been seen as Blue Dog and his economic policies mostly reflected this. Same for Billy from Arkansas.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:56 AM
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5. Dang it all to Hell! One day I'm part of the Professional Left and the next
I'm so far left of them I'm practically going to jump off the Extreme Left Cliff. I wonder who the 'Professional Left' do like?

But at least I'm in the right groove with the DUers' list.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:00 AM
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7. I don't know if I'd include Buckley on my top 25. I mean at least he isn't an insult to my

intelligence like Palin or Glenn Beck. Also, I would think that the people behind the scenes like Kissinger, Greenspan, Rove, Cheney etc who really pull the strings would be worse that the presidents like Nixon/Bushes/Reagan, as the RW presidents are pretty much just puppets and the ideologues and tacticians behind them are the ones who are the real evil.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:05 AM
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9. I would have found room on that list for Katherine Harris.



Mainly because Harris and The Supremes were highly instrumental in putting the corrupt and
evil BushCo Regime in power. And of course that is what put us in the mess we are in today.





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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:38 AM
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10. Morrison Remick Waite. Who the hell is he? The chief of the Supreme Court in 1886,
when the court ruled (unanimously) that corporations are "persons." Fun tidbit--Waite was Skull & Bones.
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:44 AM
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11. Dick Cheney?
I'd place him 100x higher than almost any of them and surely before dubs.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:33 AM
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16. A glaring omission.
14 years of Executive malfeasance.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:49 AM
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12. Buckley doesn't belong on the list. He was a conservative you could TALK to.
Truly he was the path NOT taken by the conservative movement in the USA and we should all hope that the GOP takes after Buckley in the future.

Buckley came by his conservatism honestly.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:54 AM
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13. Le Corbusier - responsible for the souless, sterile urban planning of the modern city.

And the notion that people could be stacked on top of each other in sterile, Spartan environments like office skyscrapers and office buildings and completely disconnected with the natural world around them and the production of their food, etc etc. Also responsible for an urban landscape unfriendly to pedestrian traffic. I think at one time he made a model of Paris that featured leveling the Marais district on the bank the river and putting up rows of identical skyscrapers and had 2 super-highways on each side of the Arc De Triomphe.



His work also inspired the "housing project" as we know it in America.


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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 08:59 AM
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14. Henry Kissinger should be on the list.
Perhaps in place of Hoover, who wasn't a bad guy even if he was a bad President.

And that Limbaugh fellow has done a lot of harm, too.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:08 AM
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15. I'd give Wallace at least a partial pass
Mainly because, unlike the others, he actually worked towards redemption during the latter part of his career. He not only refudiated his earlier segregationist stance, but by the mid-70's, appointed more African-Americans to state jobs than any other state, and even more than the federal government. By the time he was elected to his last term in 1982, he won with 90% of the African American vote.

Now, you can be cynical and say he was just trying to redeem himself, etc, and maybe so. But you won't see anyone else on that list make a similar life-altering effort. Helms was rancid until the day he died. So too, will Dick Armey and Newt. And Boner. All of 'em. But Wallace expressed public remorse, and at least backed up his words with concrete actions.

I always suspected that Wallace's greatest failing was the inverse: he was a segregationist to get votes, which means he finally showed his true self towards the end. That makes his life more tragedy than farce, the latter being what I would ascribe to everyone else on the Wingnut Top 25.
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Barack2theFuture Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:39 AM
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17. George HW belongs on that list for sure
I might quibble with William Buckley. He was a conservative asshat, but at least he was a mostly intellectually honest one. He was sort of a paleo-con.

The real powers behind the neocon movement are not listed. Many are not known, but Scaife, et al deserve justice after the revolution.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:06 AM
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18. Special kudos to Richard Nixon
who made both lists.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 11:43 AM
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19. Hardly seems fair to limit it to 25.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 11:48 AM
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20. Dupe. There's already a thread on this that welcomes us volunteer lefties.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 01:55 PM
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21. Where's Rush Limpballs?
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