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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:37 PM
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The asses voted against health care for first responders--what isn't that the big scandal?
I don't get it. Upholding the constitution is an uproar but you can vote against the 911 heroes and no one says a peep? Why isn't THAT a campaign issue?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:39 PM
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1. Nothing is an "issue" unless the M$M makes it an issue..
Clearly the M$M doesn't care about first responders while they do care about an Islamic community center in lower Manhattan.



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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 06:29 PM
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15. +100. clear to anyone paying attention which side the deck is stacked on.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:41 PM
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2. Oh, it'll be a campaign issue..
When the Dem campaigns begin.

Campaigns are the one thing the media can't control. Not that they wont try.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:44 PM
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3. That wouldn't be bipartisan..
I doubt the Dems will use that issue, it might anger the Republicans and then there's no telling what would happen.



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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:47 PM
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6. I've already heard it being used, pre-campaign.
They have and they will use the issue. If they don't, make them.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:50 PM
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7. OK, I won't vote for them if they don't use the issue...
Oh..wait..

Do you have any idea how silly "make them" sounds?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 05:28 PM
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13. "Make them" is the whole point of local politics.
You have more power than you think. Ever worked on a campaign?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:05 PM
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16. Local politics is even more corrupt than national politics..
My son in law's family is very well connected politically and I get to hear all kinds of horrifying (to me) stories of blatant corruption.

There is basically zero scrutiny of Republican politicians in my area and no one but Repubs can get elected in this red state hell.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:44 PM
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4. I posted about this right after it happened.
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 04:46 PM by walldude
This was a gift to the Democrats, the election was handed to them on a silver platter, but they are too stupid or too blind to do anything about it. They could make a single campaign ad for every race in the country and just keep hammering the message home. "Republicans care more about foreign tax shelters than they do the health of 9/11 first responders". You turn it into a propaganda campaign, ramming that message down the throats of every American. You play the ad on every website, on every radio and TV station until it's all Americans are talking about.

This election could still be a landslide. We could not only keep what we have but actually gain bigger majorities. Americans seem to understand sound bites best. Well the soundbite that Republicans care more about foreign companies being able to avoid paying taxes on business done in the U.S. than they do about the Americans who ran into the World Trade Center on 9/11 to save people could pretty much sink the Repugs for a long time.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 06:28 PM
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14. I remember that thread. You'd expect that SOME member of NY's delegation to DC
would be making hay with the Republicans' cold-hearted first-reponder vote. But even Anthony Wiener seems to have let this one go.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:45 PM
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5. it wasn't even controversial per the media. we barely were made aware of it
.....we didn't need to hear too much about the 911 heroes that the republican party told to go fuck themselves.

but uphold the first amendment and it's a firestorm controversy
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 05:01 PM
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11. then we should tell the fucking press that we fucking want people to know about it
I'll write all the press assholes. We need to get this out. Sacred, uh? Well they fucked the first responders--are they not sacred?
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:54 PM
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8. but, but
procedural maneuvers! political gimicks! vjbfibdsbsvd! (head explodes)
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:54 PM
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9. Because Gibbs dissed the far left.
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MerryBlooms Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 04:57 PM
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10. Unbelievable, isn't it?
'Terrorist babies', the President with/out his shirt in the Gulf and any other nonsense, is what plays ... I guess we can blame it on THEIR base, but what the hell does it say about us on the left? It's getting a little uncomfortable for me - I think it's time for some major protests and we'll have to take the lead on the media response ... either through true liberals like Maddow, Hartmann, etc ... or through Youtube - however we can accomplish getting our message out. I am hoping the left will get fired up once the weather cools down. I suspect there are going to be a lot of of single lefties on a corner with our protests signs ... again.

Second thought, we also need an administration fired up, and frankly, as much as I support this President, I haven't been hella inspired lately. :-( Some good, some bad, but honestly, I think there could be a lot stronger language coming out against the right from Gibbs and the rest of the administration - the left isn't our enemy and I sure wish more than a hand-full of Dems would speak out.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 05:07 PM
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12. Because my Democrats allowed media ownership to be consolidated into right wing hands.
Democrat-Bad! stories get much more coverage because we have a very conservative mass media these days.

We're supposed to be glad that they ran clips of Anthony Weiner's tirade for one day.

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