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Wed Aug-18-10 10:28 AM
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Ever hear of the pipe bomb detonated in a Florida mosque? Me neither |
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Why is it that when some idiot wires a few propane tanks to some fireworks in times square the media freaks out for weeks on end. Yet why did it take this "2 blocks from ground zero" mosque controversy for me to hear about this pipe bomb attack against a mosque that happened back in May? I'm sure many of you heard about it, but I honestly didn't until it was mentioned yesterday. Not a single national news organization picked up this story. Is this not terrorism? Are the people in that mosque not as American as the rest of us? This bomb actually went off unlike the times square one, luckily it didn't kill anyone. Yet not a word from the media and chances are most of this country never even heard of this attack. http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/florida-mosque-bombed-fbi-calls-help-nation
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:30 AM
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1. Because it messes up the theme. |
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:30 AM
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2. "not a single national news organization picked up this story" |
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:32 AM
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3. I guess I should clarify. Not a single national network mentioned this story on TV |
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even if it was mentioned a couple times here and there why didn't it get the attention the NYC time square plot did?
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:41 AM
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7. Can't blame the media this time. |
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TV news picked it up. The public didn't care.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:43 AM
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8. You're saying CNN, Fox, and MSNBC all covered this story on their TV channels? |
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What did that coverage entail? Because after work I watch atleast a couple hours of MSNBC each day. I don't recall this story ever being mentioned.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:46 AM
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10. Pretty sure they did. |
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What did they cover? Pipe-bombing in a mosque.
"Because after work I watch atleast a couple hours of MSNBC each day."
Maybe that's your problem.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:48 AM
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11. You bug me. What do you mean "maybe that's your problem" |
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My point was I watch cable news daily, whatever you think of that it's what I do. I don't remember any coverage of this event. If there was any it was minimal. The times square plot which was a few propane tanks wired to some fireworks which never actually went off got wall to wall coverage for days if not weeks. This got very little to none.
Why?
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:49 AM
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13. I mean, if your source for news is several hours of cable editorialism... |
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then you're probably not getting a clear picture.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:50 AM
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14. Did I say that was my only source for news? You want to make this about me now? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 10:51 AM by no limit
Like I said, you bug me.
And thanks for not answering my question, forget I asked (I know you already did).
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:52 AM
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15. You said that you always watch several hours of MSNBC when you get home from work. |
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Yet you didn't know about the mosque bombing.
Sounds like something's wrong there.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:53 AM
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17. Jesus christ. Yes, I watch cable news daily. And I don't remember this story ever being covered |
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I certainly remember the NYC times square plot as you couldn't turn on the TV without hearing about it.
Now, I asked you a question which you chose to ignore and instead wanted to make this about how much cable news I watch. I'll try to ask again. Why did the NYC time square plot get wall to wall coverage day in and day out and this was barely mentioned?
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:57 AM
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18. The ignore function here really works wonders |
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Just a suggestion for situations when the people you are talking to display willful ignorance.
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Wed Aug-18-10 11:00 AM
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21. You're not getting the irony, are you? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 11:00 AM by HiFructosePronSyrup
Ignore function = willful ignorance.
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Wed Aug-18-10 11:34 AM
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25. I was gonna post I hate the ignore function but when you see people straight up lying |
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I can understand why some people would resort to it.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:59 AM
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20. They ran both stories. |
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Public was interested in the times square bombing, they didn't care about mosque bombing.
I think you're proving my point. You remember perfectly clearly the time square bombing, but don't remember the mosque bombing.
Even though Keith and Rachel reported on it.
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Wed Aug-18-10 11:22 AM
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24. You know, I think fox news has a position open for people that pull facts out of their asses |
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Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 11:24 AM by no limit
The bombing happened on May 10th: Transcript from Olbermann's show on the 10th http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37081939/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/Nothing. From the 11th: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37105236/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/Nothing. From the 12th: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37128212/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/Nothing. I could do this for Rachel's show but I don't feel like it since it's now obvious you made your claim up. So why do you make shit up to defend the media?
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Wed Aug-18-10 12:24 PM
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26. that sure got it quiet n/t |
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Wed Aug-18-10 12:45 PM
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27. Yeah, typical of that perticular poster. Really pisses me off. |
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These people try to side track the discussion as long as they can but when the facts make that impossible to do any longer they simply disappear as if the discussion never took place. They could atleast have the courtesy of admitting wrong.
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Wed Aug-18-10 11:16 AM
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23. is it that the public didn't care or that the media chose not to cover it extensively? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 11:16 AM by unblock
some issues the media spends hundreds of hours on and others they spend hundreds of seconds on.
in some cases one could blame the public for not caring, but they certainly don't take the public's pulse on every single issue. editors make judgement calls and guesses as to which stories to focus on, but of course they have conflicting pressures. keeping the public glued to the screen is one, but only one, of these pressures. moreover, there are many ways to keep the public's attention, for an industry that specializes in making mountains out of molehills, the actual characteristics of the molehill are often immaterial.
i.e., they could have spend weeks on end discussing this story, and peoples' opinion of it, and peoples' opinion of peoples' opinion of it, and so on and so on.
when people complain about the media "missing" or "ignoring" a story, almost always they're talking about something that DID get some airplay -- the complaint really is that it was measured in seconds rather than hours.
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Wed Aug-18-10 11:12 AM
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22. Your link goes to an AG press conference |
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one month after the terrorists struck the mosque.
Googling "Florida, mosque, bombing" and finding an obscure CNN politics page covering an AG press conference does not prove that the corporate media covered this story. On the contrary, the lack of an actual news report shows that it was not covered.
Nobody heard about this terrorism until yesterday, because they didn't cover it.
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:33 AM
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4. But then I also didn't hear about the copycat bombs |
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Which is what you get when the media runs with a story. Why so important to have this blazed all over?
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:35 AM
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5. my response exactly -- heard this on msnbc last nite. WTF -- big double standard. |
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:36 AM
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6. I was surprised to hear about it too. It was barely covered. |
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No too much to decipher here. It's not what you do, it's who you are when you do it. Brown foreigners and Muslims are eligible to be "terrorists;" white local nutballs killing U.S. government employees are "Citizens fed up with Big Government."
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:44 AM
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9. There's a Mosque right up the street from me in downtown Orlando |
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I can often hear calls to prayers coming from it when I walk around Lake Eola in the evening. This is the South and no one seems to think twice about it. Such a totally absurd manufactured controversy. It's a). not a mosque that they want to build in NYT, and B). it's not at the WTC site ("Ground Zero" is in Hiroshima).
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:48 AM
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12. thanik you. kick and recommend |
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:53 AM
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I did a quick Google news search. I found lots of local stories. But look what happens when I try major news sites:
FOX News: Nothing
CNN: Nothing
MSNBC: Nothing
CBS News: Nothing.
Why is that?
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Wed Aug-18-10 10:59 AM
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19. the republicans could not gain ground with this story, that's why |
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