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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:56 PM
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We invaded Iraq and stole their oil - mission accomplished. Now Afghanistan...
Sure, we murdered Iraqis and took their oil. That was always the mission.

And now that oil was 'discovered' in Afghanistan, the CIC will move those soldiers over to Afghanistan to murder and steal their oil.

Americans are so ignorant, stupid, and propagandized...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:58 PM
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1. We stole their oil? Can you prove that, and do tell if there's still
more there, then why are we leaving?



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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:53 PM
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10. 50,000 troops to remain in Iraq.
We aren't leaving anywhere.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:02 PM
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12. that seems to be the procedure fight and stay, or in this
case invade and stay.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:58 PM
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2. How much of their oil did we take?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:13 PM
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6. Impossible to know, since the meters were disabled for years
even after Halliburton "upgraded" the oil wells, they didn't turn on the meters until 2008
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:59 PM
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3. Afghanistan has oil?
Don't you mean lithium? Or is it because Obama hates brown people?
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:06 PM
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4. "Oil field discovered in Afghanistan' and search 'iraq oil auction'
"A preliminary survey found that Afghanistan may have 1.8 billion barrels of oil in the north of the country, an official said.

The survey by Afghan and international geologists found the possible oil field between Balkh and Jawzjan provinces, Mines Ministry spokesman Jawad Omar said. "

<MORE>
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/oil-field-discovered-in-afghanistan-2053829.html



AND,

Iraq's oil divided up all over the world...do a internet search on Iraq Oil Auction.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:07 PM
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5. No.
Because it's ridiculous.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:56 PM
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11. Reuters 8/15/10: Afghanistan says finds 1.8 billion barrel oilfield
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:13 PM
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7. this is old-but here is why we will never leave
http://www.citizenworks.org/corp/warmongers.php

The Washington Corporate War Tour


In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.






American Enterprise Institute

American Petroleum Institute

Bechtel

Boeing

The Carlyle Group

Clear Channel

Dyncorp

Halliburton

Intelsat
10. Leo Burnett

11.Lockheed-Martin

12. Military Resources Professionals Inc.

13. Pentagon

14. Qualcomm

15. Raytheon

16. Rendon Group

18. SY Technology

18. Washington Post


more at site
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:14 PM
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8. That mission was accomplished before we even went in. Just ask Cheney and
the 4 oil companies who are the recipients.

We knew there was no reason to be there so credit is due to this administration to start getting those troops out of there. It's huge logistical feat. More of Obama cleaning up after Bush.

I read where the location of the oil in Afghanistan presents complications for accessing it, and that's why it hadn't been seriously considered. I hope that's accurate.



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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:52 PM
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9. here's a few reasons we'll stay
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deficitjobs Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:03 PM
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17. Exactly. It was about infrastructure contracts, not oil
Look at how much money has been spent on Iraq. Look at who has received the most money.

It's about jobs, contracts, and the US economy. Bush had a little recession on his hands. What better to stimulate the economy than a good old fashioned war?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:07 PM
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13. Did you know there is a meeting between Af/Pak/Taj and Russia happening now?
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:32 PM
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14. What oil did we steal? Posts like this
cause me to :eyes: :banghead: :rofl:
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:53 PM
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16. "Shell and ExxonMobil win Iraq oil field deal "
America invaded the sovereign country of Iraq, killed a million innocent men women and children, and the net result?

With their sovereign government destroyed, America set the table to FORCE Iraqis to divide up THEIR oil fields.

With you all's logic, China can invade America, for our own good, occupy our country, and then divide up the wealth to whoever.




....

The oil giants have secured a deal to develop Iraq’s West Qurna field, which is one of the largest in the oil-rich south of the country.

Shell will have a 20pc stake and Exxon will have an 80pc stake in the joint venture, boosting production to 2.325m barrels per day.

<more>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/6509767/Shell-and-ExxonMobil-win-Iraq-oil-field-deal.html
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deficitjobs Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:04 PM
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18. Great, it's a deal...aka they pay royalties
As I just posted upthread - it's not about oil, it's about contracts.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:32 PM
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19. It is all about oil and it is all about war profit...
Do we all here think this is acceptable?
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deficitjobs Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:36 PM
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20. If it was about oil, Hussein would still be in power
Iraq's oil was reaching the market just fine. The US doesn't need to steal oil; the US can afford to pay higher prices than the rest of the world.

This war (as the rest of the military industrial complex) is about US jobs - soldiers, military contractors, construction contractors. It's a huge part of our economy.

Check out the BBC documentary Why We Fight.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:44 PM
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21. Whaaaaat????
You are out of your league.....
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deficitjobs Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:59 PM
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22. You've been listening to your own echo chamber too long
737 military bases worldwide.
2.5 million people employed directly by the department of defense.
Another 1-4 million employed by defense related manufacturing.

Seriously, the best way to extract oil from Iraq would be to have a friendly dictator who maintained peace and kept the infrastructure working. Instead, the US has sparked an insurgency, destroyed the country's infrastructure, installed a flawed constitution, tried to keep together three incompatible civilizations under one roof, and is now "pulling out". That doesn't seem too much like it's about oil to me.

Show me your evidence of oil theft. Meanwhile I'll show you the hundreds of billions that have gone to private infrastructure contractors; the hundreds of billions that have been paid to military employees as their salaries; the hundreds of billions that have gone to weapons manufacturers.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:40 PM
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23. Sorry deficitjobs, being a progressive liberal democrat... by definition...
I use my own brain cells to form my own conclusions...
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deficitjobs Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 06:03 AM
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24. Good, as should you
Blood for oil does not make sense. It's an easy conclusion made from a halfway analysis.

Yes, we fought the war in Iraq on a lie. But it's for deeper reasons that "we wanted their oil". We HAD their oil.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:44 PM
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15. since Iraq hasn't been producing oil since 2003, how can we steal it?
at least stealing their oil would have been a reason for war, but we haven't even stolen the oil, which makes this war even stupider.
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