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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 07:54 AM Original message |
Is it hate speech to express hatred for a hateful person? |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. no it is not acceptable, hate speech is hate speech |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hate is hate. You're the one who has to live with it. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. I allow myself to feel hate freely, for whomever I choose. As long |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. Can't you be a bigger person and ignore his passing? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. No. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. then pick up a gun and go slaughter some fundies |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Bullshit. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Falwell did all that huh? Not the people or groups that agreed with him |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It's time folks like you recognized your enemies. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. I didn't realize Roe was overturned or that if it was the states wouldn't |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
65. Watch "Triumph of the Will" and you will see.... |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
82. wonder where all the christians came from in the last 2000 years |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. You are a master of non-sequiter. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. well, it would be nice if you could do so rationally |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
113. You asked for it. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. it would be nice if you put the statment in context |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Contrary to your statement, fallacies in situ have little to do with context. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. ohhhh...so it was logical for freepers to take the statements of john kerry |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Good God, you've dropped to the NEENER NEENER level. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. once again, in the face of evidence contrary to your statement |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. You present no "evidence" |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. you mean the attacks on john kerry and harry reid never happened? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #131 |
143. Wow, you really don't read for comprehension. Saying that you are resorting to lame |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. you've shown your inability to reason, run along |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. You really DON'T read, do you? |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. ohhhh, helped. So you hate a man you've never met for what OTHER people did |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. My GOD, you really DO need a logic course!!!! That's the stupidest post yet, not the other one!!! |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
94. you're not? then logically the death of falwell will end all persecution of gays |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. You're the only one making that absurd leap... nt |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. read your statement and follow it to the logical conclusion. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. No, I'm done with you lecturing everyone about how you want them to feel or behave. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. I asked you to THINK about your behavior and feelings |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Fallacy: Poisoning the Well |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. you've missed the concept entirely. you should read your own posts |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. The concept is entirely your own. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #125 |
132. I said nothign about it being "good" or "bad". I said it was unproductive |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. No, you made your opinion and belief to be the superior one. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. where did I do that? either you didn't understand what I said or you're trying to lie about it |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. What a profoundly IDIOTIC suggestion. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. hitler died, his beliefs didn't |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Oh yeah, there are ovens running round the world. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. hitler didn't come to power promising an oven for every jew |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. .... |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
108. you mean historical examples that are contrary to your statments don't count? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Give it up. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. there was a rebuttal to your assertion to which you can't reply |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Bullshit. You sashay in here and lecture people on how they "should" feel. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. where did I say anything about how people should feel? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. I feel like we're fighting the armless legless "black knight. " |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. of course you do...because you're into "FEELINGS" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #129 |
142. I find the fellow rather droll |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Here's a lesson for you: hating your persector is not the same as hating someone |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Larry Flynt disagrees with that view |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. WTF do I care what Larry Flynt thinks? |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. because he understood that THE MAN wasn't the problem |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. If you want to take your cues on how to live from Larry Flynt, be my guest. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. there's a forrest beyond that tree you're looking at |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I'm quite able to see both, thanks. I suggest you try the same. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #59 |
72. that'd be great, if the topic were about that. the topic was HATE of FALWELL |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. But you brought up the other point - his ideas. Hate of Falwell doesn't diminish |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. hate of falwell diminishes you as a person |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Well, Bunnies and Kitties to YOU TOO. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. and you are? look at your posts, then take your own words to heart |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I judged NO ONE. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. he caused you harm? personally? came to your house and condemned you |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #99 |
114. No. Sorry. I don't choose to play your game any further. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #114 |
124. you hate a man that had done nothing to you personally and you want to talk about logic? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #124 |
133. You really have stopped paying attention to the original premise. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. read your own posts. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. One's personhood is their business. You're just the flip side of Bush talking about people having |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. my lack of logic? you can't even stay on topic and you want to talk |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. You mean your "family values" post was on topic? Or that your posts HAVEN'T been |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. why not look at what you said about HATE, then carry your thought |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. The logical conclusion is that how you FEEL is a personal matter. The logical conclusion |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Feelings aren't logic, they are emotions. emotions have no basis in logic |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. The logical conclusion is based on the principle stated, not the feeling. I'm sorry this is so |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. my god you're one confused puppy. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Fallacy: Personal Attack |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Why? We didn't cause his passing. He caused much suffering. Why ignore it? |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
46. why should I ignore the passing of someone who was not only a bigot |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. Specific criticism directed at a single person, even if it's over the top, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You win the prize! |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. What if the hate is directed at a specific person largely because |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. That is a strawman, and I think you know it |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. EXTREMELY well said, but I have a bit of hate for the monster. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Hey, what was that emotion that Jesus was expressing vis a vis those moneychangers? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. And I'm getting a little sick to my stomache with the "holier than thou" attitude. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Similarly there are some of us who do not relish the |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. That's why that hide thread option is useful... NT |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. It's taken me 50 years to figure this out. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. If Clint Eastwood slogans is what you live your life by, |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #52 |
62. I applaud your self-sacrifice.... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I applaud your self-sacrifice, as well. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. No Hitler, no Nazis. No Falwell, no "Moral Majority." |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Well, when people preach loudly AGAINST something |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I would argue that some are expressing hate, though you may be |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. If you hate a person, that's different from "hate speech." Hate speech is a civil rights matter. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Larry Flynt didn't hate the man. Why should you? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. First of all, you are making a shitload of amazing assumptions there. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. you're rationalizing hate, whether you want to admit it or not |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. That's not 'food for thought', that's bullshit. Flat out bullshit. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I read what you wrote...it just shows that HATE isn't limited to fundies |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. bullshit |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
51. I don't share your bizarre obsession with hate. Hate doesn't break your bones or take |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. it doesn't? well, that's good to know the next time I read a story about another Mathew Shepherd |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. It wasn't hate that killed Matthew Shepherd - it was the actions of his murderers. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. But it was a hate crime. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Irrelevant. There is plenty of hate that causes no harm because it does not |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #63 |
84. then hate can be a family value in your world, huh? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. "Family values"? You've mistaken me for a Republican candidate circa 1996. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #88 |
106. good to see you support racism...just as long as no one gets hurt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Now supporting freedom of speech is supporting racism? What a shame. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #109 |
130. were you out defending Imus, Mr Freedom of Speech? Rush Limbaugh? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #130 |
151. Irrelevant. Imus' issue was not free speech, but his contract. I have no defense of Limbaugh |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #106 |
117. Fallacy: Straw Man |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #61 |
79. was it more of a crime because of the word hate? would it have been less of a crime |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
104. good to see you support racism...just as long as no one gets hurt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. What I support is freedom of speech and thought. I am a card carrying member of the ACLU, |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #111 |
138. your posts indicate otherwise |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. excuse me, do you mind explaining |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. habit |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
153. Well, that's what I was asking you. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #138 |
147. Your failure to comprehend basic principles is not my responsibility. NT |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. that's funny, coming from someone who hid behind the ACLU |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. I uphold and support the ACLU and its principles: freedom of speech, freedom of thought. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #104 |
121. Fallacy: Poisoning the Well |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
75. Junk food for thought n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
87. I'm not advocating death or hellfire for groups of people who aren't like me. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
8. Wait until Jane Fonda dies.... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Fonda is a great example. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
13. I don't think it is hateful to say Falwell was a nasty, rotten, hateful person |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Didn't hate Jerry, only despised him. Often expressed wonder on DU board if Jerry et al were |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. I'd say it's pretty accurate. By his very own words we know him. NT |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
18. Hate speech is incitement to harm the inncocent |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
31. If you're a Dem, yes ... |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
41. If a person convicted of rape is raped in prison, |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Is it considered rape? By me it is. By others? They'll have to speak |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Fallacious conflation of rape and speech. Is killing in self defense murder? |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. I guess I just have to figure out when hate is good and when hate is bad. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Ain't that the truth. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Eh, don't worry. I know they can hate with the best of them also. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Suggestion: Hate alone is a non-issue. Actions that help or hurt others matter. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-17-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #41 |
155. Well of course it is still considered rape if it happened in prison. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
64. "hate speech" is a bogus term invented to limit Free Speech. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
74. Yes. Two wrongs do not make one right |
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sheerjoy (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
76. Depends, I suppose |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
77. Why does it matter if it's "hate speech" or not? It's constitutionally protected speech. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
80. Use the fundies very meme |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
81. "hate speech" is not just saying nasty things |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
97. I'm with Mr. T in times like these. I pity the fool. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
102. The opposite of love is not hate it is indifference |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
148. "I hate someone" is not hate speech. "Rip X's ears off because is a something" is |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
150. Only to unthinking idiots who merely pretend to be against the hateful person. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-16-07 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
154. Hate is hate. |
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