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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:07 AM
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"Motorists unfazed by climbing gas prices". Oh really?
I ran across the quote in the title as the title of this AP news article today... (HERE):
NEW YORK --For all their complaining as they pay $3 a gallon or more to fill up their cars, few American drivers have yet to reach the point of cutting back. That's the message from government statistics showing that demand for gasoline is only just starting to level off even as refinery outages and tight supplies have sent pump prices soaring by 43 percent since the end of January.

<snip>

"I drive 55 miles each way to work every day," said Sandy Colden, of Medford, N.J., one recent morning while loading groceries into her Honda Pilot SUV. "So I really don't have a choice, unfortunately."

Colden's not alone. Most Americans are locked into their driving habits, and can do little to alter their fuel-buying patterns when prices rise, experts say. For example, the number of workers with commutes lasting longer than 60 minutes grew by almost 50 percent between 1990 and 2000, according to Census Department data.

But that usually means they have to cut back elsewhere, as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is finding to its distress. The world's largest retailer said Tuesday that earnings in the current quarter will fall short of Wall Street expectations, in part because of higher gas prices.


Just a few days ago however I ran across the following recent article about a study done by Wayne Hochwarter, a professor of management in Florida State Univ's College of Business. HERE) The results of this study show that the title of that AP article is nonsense... we ARE fazed by climbing gas prices and it's showing up ways that effect the over all health of our economy in general.

Higher Gas Prices Leave Many Workers Running on Empty
<snip>
Research conducted by Wayne Hochwarter, a professor of management in FSU's College of Business, documents that Americans' work attitudes have been affected as the cost to fill a tank of gas has nearly doubled over the past few years. In his research, approximately 1,000 full-time employees were asked to note how gas prices have affected their disposable spending patterns. They also were asked how these changes affected their stress levels and willingness to participate at work. (Respondents, who worked in both blue- and white-collar occupations, reported paying an average of $2.83 a gallon during their previous visit to the gas station at the time they were surveyed earlier this year.)

Sixty percent of employees confirmed that the price of gas has significantly reduced the amount of money they have to spend on other things, while 45 percent reported the need to pay off debts more slowly or not at all. Finally, 26 percent indicated that the cost of gas has necessitated going without basics such as heat or air conditioning, or even cutting back on food purchases, over the past few months.

Further, Hochwarter found that those most affected by gas prices were prone to experience stress both on and off the job. Specifically, negative views of work and the company, sluggishness, antagonistic behavior, feeling overwhelmed and sadness were significantly higher for those indicating gas-price-related effects on spending behavior.

"Most of these effects can be attributed directly to distraction while at work," Hochwarter said. "Those I've talked to spent a significant amount of time worrying about their financial situation."

The research also indicated much higher levels of family conflict for those required to modify spending habits.</snip>


Unfazed? There may be a sense of helplessness, frustration and plenty of anger but from what I'm hearing the emotions expressed are far from "unfazed". x(
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:08 AM
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1. It's not affecting their driving. I've slowed down to about 62-63mph and get blown off the road.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:35 AM
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18. Unfortunately I think many Americans are addicted to speed & power
as much as gas. Many don't seem to grasp that they would save gas and money by going the speed limit. Most cars get the best gas mileage at somewhere around 50 mpg depending on how they're designed for power, speed or fuel economy not to mention drag.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:15 AM
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26. I've noticed quite an increase in my mileage by doing 3 very simple things!!
1) Slowed down from 68mph to 62-63mph (dropped my RPMS from 2800 to about 2600)

2) Coast down hills, off-ramps, and when approaching traffic lights or stop signs. Coasting with a car in gear will shut off the fuel as long as the engine is above idle speed. Putting a car in neutral and then coasting makes the computer keep sending fuel in order to keep the engine turning.

3) Shutting off my engine at traffic lights. It takes more gas to start a (modern) car than it does to leave it idling for 15-20 seconds or more.


I'm normally at about 1/2 tank after I've gone 220-225 miles. I'm now at 235 miles and still above the 1/2 tank mark. :)

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:08 AM
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2. Right. The inelasticity of oil demand by motorists is only half the story.
The other is people not being able to use that money to fuel other parts of the economy instead.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:11 AM
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4. Exactly....
But as usual that's lost on the crackerjack reporters when they write this tripe.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:34 AM
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8. Right -- oil companies are thriving while other sectors are
bogging down.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:10 AM
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3. I heard on the radio the other day..
that revolving (credit card) debt is up 9%. The same time Wal-Mart, The Gap and Penny's reports sales dropping like a stone. Hmm..what do you think people are charging? Couldn't be groceries and gas could it? But the economy is so GOOD right now! :eyes:
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:04 AM
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21. The fact is that to keep the economy truly healthy the majority
needs to have disposable income and right now too many of us do NOT have the extra $$$ to do much (if anything) more then take basic trips to work or the store to pick up basic "need" type of supplies like FOOD and replacement clothing.

As my husband said this morning, "The economy is like farming in a way, you need to fertilize the ground so the crops can grow." Basically the stupid neo-Republicans have it totally WRONG (againx()... it's not "trickle down" that helps keep the economy strong, it's trickle UP.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:13 AM
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5. How can these reporters on TV sit there and lie through their teeth
about why the price of gas is up and then make some kind of funny remark about it??

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:35 AM
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17. Easy, they're well paid too do so. No conscious, but a fat bank account.
The rising price at the pump or the grocery store or their favorite expensive restaurant, doesn't matter too the Haves and Have Mores. Especially in light of the unnecessary tax cuts they have received these past six years. They have been compensated many times over. The rest of us poor bastards can just go pound sand.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:28 AM
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6. The market will sustain $3 a gallon gasoline. The question is can it get over the $4 mark
and be sustained there. Demand didn't go down after Katrina, it's not going to go down this time either.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:32 AM
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7. Nobody asked if I was fazed.
I'm fazed! In fact, I'm getting a bike, even though it scares the hell out of me, since the roads are in such bad shape around here.

Maybe I'll even sell my freaking car!
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:03 AM
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13. I sold my car in 1993 and don't miss it
I've found that cycling is safe just by using common sense and being defensive. I live in a Southern city that's not very enlightened when it comes to bikes but I've never had any serious problems.

Feel free to PM me if you'd like more info on living a happy, healthy mostly car-free life.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:11 AM
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14. Thanks!
It's going to take some major rethinking about how our family does things, but these are changes that need to be made, I think... and I just don't want to *support* the oil companines any more, as far as I can help it.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:49 AM
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19. Although I no longer can ride a bike due to MS, we live on a hobby farm
and are looking more seriously then ever at adopting a couple of horses and a buying a buggy from the local Amish.

Both of us go way back with riding and dealing with horses (even on a maintenance level) and have long wanted to have a couple to ride for exercise and pleasure but now the idea of adding a buggy to the wish list is making more sense. With gas prices getting so wild they might actually be able to help earn their keep with short trips into town for supplies. Hopefully the Amish won't mind a bit more competition for their parking places... I wonder if I could talk the local super market into adding a couple handicap buggy parking spots. :D
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:40 AM
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9. I'm freaking out
Like the woman quoted in New Jersey, I have a commute that is over 50 miles each way. While I have my feelers out for a job closer to home or in a city I could use the train to get to, I'm not optimistic. Some friends and I are in the process of finding a place closer to where I work. We've targeted in on an area that would cut my commute in half, but it may be August before we move.

I've slowed down, and resorted to buy gas in a town over the Wisconsin border (to avoid higher state and county taxes on the Illinois side). At the same time, my natural gas bill nearly tripled. I'm rereading "How to eat well on 99 cents a meal" and may end up subsisting on brown rice and beans while I learn to live without air conditioning. And I've got debt from medical problems, a recent spate of unemployment and student loans to pay off.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but for me financially, the worst seems to be coming soon.
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OlderButWiser Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:40 AM
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10. I don't know about you but...
...the recent gas prices have me very fazed. Very fazed indeed.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:43 AM
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11. My commute is about 30 miles. I drive exactly 2 of them.
The other 28 are spent blissfully at peace sipping coffee and reading the paper on the train.

I specifically moved to Washington DC to take advantage of its mass transportation.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:50 AM
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12. Who wrote that idiotic article?
The first paragraph says folks haven't chenged their driving habits (Because we're addicted to oil, dontcha know? :eyes:), yet the fourth paragraph suggests Wal-Mart sales are down because FOLKS CHANGED THEIR DRIVING HABITS.

People who keep making excuses for the oil companies need to be quartered...
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:17 AM
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15. And if people start driving less and using less gas, what do you
think will happen? My guess is that the price of gas will go up because the oil companies aren't raking in their enormous profits because sales are down.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:26 AM
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16. the hell if I haven't changed my habits
I make a 96 mile one way commute 2 or 3 times a week to work. I have a place to stay in the city so I don't go home every night. It was 47 degrees when I got up this morning to come into work. That's not terribly cold, but at 70mph on a motorcycle, it can get chilly pretty quick.

Sans the high gas price, I probably would have driven the car in today, but with gas at 3.14 a gallon here, screw that, I took the bike. It was a cold ride this morning, but I only used 1.8 gallons of their damn high priced gas!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:54 AM
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20. Our mass transit sucks.
We let ourselves fall behind Europe and Japan in the mass transit department.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:10 AM
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25. And we're doing nothing to improve it either.
But in defence of our Congress, they haven't passed legislation which addresses any issues, so it's not like they're singling transportation and energy out for their apathy.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:36 AM
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22. I would say that I am very "fazed" by it.
No "unfazed" here. I sure would like to know why they think we are unfazed by it. Let me see: The oil companies are more like a cartel who can make their own prices, cut production when they damn well please and their good buddy, GWB will never call them on it.

It's not that we are unfazed. We just can't do a damn thing about it.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:36 AM
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32. That's sums it up, "It's not that we are unfazed. We just can't do a damn thing about it."
Although there are things we can do to cut back, we are limited by our jobs, families and the need for supplies.

~*~
OT: As a fellow cat lover I really like your sig line pic... very nice. :)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:55 AM
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23. I know one thing - I'm happy as a clam our rural house is a mere
3 miles from the grocery store and other services and that we primarily work from home.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:34 AM
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28. The grocery store is 8 miles from us & thankfully we don't have
Edited on Thu May-17-07 07:35 AM by WePurrsevere
to use the car for much else either unfortunately what little traveling we have done in the past has been further cut back.

Fate is a funny thing... when we were caregivers for DHs parents for many years we would dream of someday being able to take short trips to the coast and see the country a bit... now, if things keep going the way they are, what seemed like an achievable dream would be more like a miracle.

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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:57 AM
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24. It's fazing the hell out of me!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:26 AM
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27. Articles Like That Drive Me Insane. They Come Out Every Year.
Any time an average American has to all of a sudden lose an additional 100 bucks a month or so out of nowhere, there's gonna be some 'fazing' ya know? It's unavoidable. How do you not feel a loss of a hundred bucks or more each month? I mean, might not be the end of the world (though for some it hits harder than others), but it's still gonna faze most to at least some degree. That's just common sense right?
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:27 AM
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31. "Common sense" yes unfortunately as the adage goes...
"Common sense is not very common any more." :(

Increased gas prices... increased home heating prices... increased electric costs (NYS is #2, paying 17.22kWh) ... increased grocery bills.. all these things deeply effect people and how they feel, live and just exist. It especially hits those who are barely scrapping by as it is. Not everyone is able to go out and get or even find a way to make extra money.

I'm so darn sick of the "rosy" picture that's being painted in BS. :grr: So many people are really HURTING and yet politicians and the "backwash" koolaid drinkers continue to live in denial and spin. Americans need to stop buying this stuff and insist on honesty and that real changes be made to help the MAJORITY of Americans and not just the upper 1 or 2%.

All I can do is continue hoping for and working towards these changes which I think only a Dem will care enough to bring about.

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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:18 AM
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29. We may not change our driving habits very much
but my wife and I are looking into trading in both our vehicles and get two Priuses (Prii?)

The oil companies have had such a great influence on how our society operates that we're stuck with the infrastructure we have: our suburbs and exurbs, the lack of alternative fuel development, average fuel economy of NEW cars still in the 20's, the lack of mass transit for a large number of workers. We are dancing to their tune and the idiot decider is playing the fiddle for them. Unless we force political change on our economic masters, we'll be dancing until the last drop.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:24 AM
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30. This motorist is certainly fazed.
I hardly drive anywhere besides to and from work nowadays.
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