Questions on Marriage

[Angry Dragon]

It is my understanding that marriage is granted through the government and not religion or church.

I was wondering if anyone knows or can point me in a direction to find out how marriage was
granted 2100-1800 years ago. Not sure if I am using the correct terms in granting permission to marry.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. In Feudal Times in England, you had to get permission of your Lord to marry.

If that wasn't bad enough, your Lord had rights to your bride before you.

Here's a link to more information: http://www.medieval-weddings.net/marriage_laws.htm

[RandomThoughts]

2. Best to not make people your Lord then isnt it.

And they lost and that rule was changed, things can change for the better.

[Angry Dragon]

3. Thinking more in Bibical times

Trying to form a defense of same-sex marriage

[REP]

5. Define 'Biblical' - Old Testament? New Testament?

Which culture, which people, which continent?

[Angry Dragon]

8. New and Old Testament

Middle East, mostly through the Jews and early Christians

[REP]

9. Well, you know your search parameters then!

[RB TexLa]

4. Sorry, I don't know enough about it in the era you are asking about. Good luck

[noamnety]

6. from an old post of mine:

Marriage was originally a legal secular contract, the church became involved because messy legal situations necessitated the need for written records, and usually the priest was the only one who could read and write in a village.
http://www.derekelkins.com/samesex/history/main.htm

"Indeed in it's origins, marriage had little to do with love or religion. The oldest history of marriage dates to 2350 B.C., and it original intention was to "bind" a woman to a man. This essentially made the woman the "property" of the man, to "guarantee" that the man's heirs where biologically his. "
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/civilunions/a/MarriageFeb05.htm

Marriage and divorce in ancient Mesopotamia and Babylonia: "Marriage, regarded as a legal contract, and divorce as its breakup were similarly affected by official procedures. The future husband and his father-in-law agreed on a contract and if a divorce occurred, the father-in-law was entitled to satisfaction."
http://www.ehistory.com/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=58

[Angry Dragon]

11. Thank you

[undeterred]

7. History of Marriage:

http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/ATLAS_EN/html/history_of_marriage_in_western.html

[Angry Dragon]

12. Thank you

[david13]

10. Mating has probably occured since the beginning ot time, as otherwise

there wouldn't be a continuation of the species.
Has government? No. Has religion? No.
Mating and bonding is seen amongst the animals and the birds. In many different forms. And no doubt to me existed in those forms, perhaps one hundred thousand, maybe a million years before government and religion.
dc

[SheilaT]

13. While this isn't exactly what you're asking

about, I remember being quite annoyed back in the late 60's, early 70's, that married people got a significant tax break. I was single at the time.

I've since come to understand that unless all people (tax payers) are treated separately, it simply is not possible to have a tax code that is truly equitable to the married and unmarried alike.

SheilaT (who has been single, married, and is now divorced)