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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:18 AM
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The Tea Party Could Bring Fascism to America
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Tea-Party-Could-Bring-by-George-Donnelly-100820-839.html

If fascism is coming to America, it's the Tea Party that's bringing it. Some would have us believe that the Tea Party is anti-government. They're just anti-this-government. Whenever the Republicans are out of power, these folks start in on a free market spiel. Government this, government that. What we see however is that, once they are in power again, the GOP grows government. See, for example, Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes. These hypocrites cover their big governmentism with free market talk. The Tea Party is simply a convenient marketing campaign.

The Tea Party is not a libertarian movement. It co-opted a libertarian message, but in reality it is a rightist movement. It's pro-war, intolerant, ultra-patriotic, pro-torture, into corporate apologism and ready to scapegoat paperless immigrants. As soon as the GOP recaptures the gun that is government, I expect these people will go back to sleep.

Libertarianism, on the other hand, is a consistently peaceful position. We're against war, we don't care much about those imaginary dotted lines on the map called borders and we recognize that the evils of corporatism are borne of the state. We don't oppose government only when people we dislike are in power. We seek to solve the problems liberals worry about with more peaceful means than state mandates. We're not like those Tea Party folks. And you can see this in the above video where a libertarian is violently removed from a Tea Party event!

If the economy continues downhill, people will seek a strong man, someone with a plan who will get us out this mess. This person will right the wrongs and restore America to its former greatness or so he'll promise. The Tea Party is well positioned to ride this sentiment into power in 2010 and 2012. With their neo-con lust for global domination, their blindness to the unfettered power of state-backed corporations and their failure to accept the impracticality of the state, they are more likely than any other movement to bring fascism to these shores.


Video and more at the link ---
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:19 AM
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1.  Could Bring MORE Fascism to America
More than the PNAC even
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:54 AM
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10. Exactly - Eisenhower warned us that it had already arrived in 1960
What do people think he was talking about when he referred to the military industrial complex? He was referring to fascism, the control of the state by its militaristic business interests. It is far far worse today than it was during Ike's time, and it is one of the base causes of the suffering in this country.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:12 AM
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13. I think Fascism brought the (astro-turf) Tea Party to the USA
In the immortal words of that little girl in "Poltergeist":

"They're heee-re !"
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:23 AM
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2. When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
Sinclair Lewis


I'm guessing they don't read much of his writings.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:26 AM
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4. And it'll have tea bags hanging from the cross.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:44 AM
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8. "wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Just exactly like it arrived in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy...

The MSM has had all these years to tweak the spoon feeding of the big lies to the faithfully foolish. Today's Blacks, Muslims and Hispanics are yesterday's Jews in the eyes of today's fatally enamored faithful. The FOX spell is working as well as Der Stürmer or the Völkischer Beobachter ever worked. Repeat the lies enough and they become "Reality". It's what Karl Rove meant when he said, "We Are Creating Our Own Reality."

Ivy Lee taught the Nazis and the American Fascists how to hide right out in the open.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 01:17 PM
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17. Like this?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:26 AM
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3. This is not breaking news
Reagan, Bush and W already did most of the heavy lifting. All that remains is the complacency and the storm troopers--

I don't see either of those happening, but I've been wrong before.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:29 AM
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5. Wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.. n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:33 AM
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6. Unless I'm just knowing Republicans who call themselves libertarians . . .
. . . most everyone I know who is a "Libertarian" is a Milton Friedman-loving, corporate apologist "Trickle Downer". They, like their Republican counterparts, want to continue with this "FREE MARKETZ" fuckery even though it's painfully obvious by now that it doesn't work for anyone except a select privileged few.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:10 AM
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12. Those are leopards trying to change their spots.
They lay claim to libertarian principles they agree with (no taxes, no social programs, no governmental controls on business), while ignoring others they do not condone (open borders, no more world conquest). But George Donnelly, who wrote the article, seems more like a classical libertarian. So I suppose he's found himself unwelcome among the teabaggers, who are extremist Republicans in disguise, attempting to excape accountability for the GWB years.

Donnelly says he and other libertarians would be wise to form alliances with the left. Well, he's not going to form an alliance with me.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:54 AM
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16. I don't see Libertarians have much in common with liberals
but I do see that the working people of the Tea Party has a lot in common with progressive liberals. The big corporations have sold them out and I think they are beginning to see this. If we approach them from this point of view the republicons would be in trouble. Baggers are getting a lot of bad information that needs to be spoken to directly like gun control, insurance reform, financial reform even abortion. They are already losing control of their Tea Party creation, it wouldn't take much to get movement to the left.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 03:18 PM
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18. It would be good to find some common ground with either faction.
Between the racist warmongering stooges of the richest one percent, and the naive anarchists who long to make our nation just like Somalia, maybe we could team up and do some great things together.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:34 AM
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7. As obvious as this is it needs to be said out loud and frequently
that's why I insist on still calling them teabaggers. They aren't legitimate in my opinion since they stand for the lowest and meanest values without any redeeming qualities or ideals. They're not patriots. They're deep down burning
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:49 AM
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9. I take issue with the "ultra-patriotic" description
These people are chauvinists, not patriots. You can call the soldiers fighting in Afghanistan patriotic. Bringing a flag to a "demonstration" does not make anyone a patriot.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:18 AM
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14. No, it's a fair description.
Think about the Nazis as probably the best example of what we think of as fascists. Members of the SS in particular were fiercely patriotic. But patriotism is not always a good thing as we were taught to believe in school. It can be a very bad thing, especially when it is blind.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:06 AM
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11. You mean. . .they haven't yet in your view??? LOL
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:19 AM
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15. You can't bring something that's already here.
nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:20 PM
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19. It's already here
ask Goldman Sachs
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Ted_White Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:25 PM
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20. When fascism comes to America...
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:38 PM
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21. Been saying this for months.
I'm amazed when people on DU suggest that we have some kind of common cause with the Tea Party.
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