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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:36 AM
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3 dead, 4 wounded in shootout in central Virginia
LOUISA, Va. — A man involved in a dispute over property and belongings opened fire in a rural neighborhood in central Virginia, killing two people and wounding four others before police fatally shot him.

The gunman began shooting around 5 p.m. Sunday at a mobile home outside of the town of Louisa, said Louisa County sheriff's Maj. Donnie Lowe.

The man had unleashed a pit bull on officers before he and his dog were then killed in a shootout, Lowe said. No officers were injured, he said.

Police said they had responded to a minor incident at the home earlier in the day.

"It appears that this is all a family-related matter," said Sgt. Thomas Molnar, a state police spokesman. ..........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20100823/US.Virginia.Shootings/



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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:42 AM
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1. Good grief
That's only about three miles from where I used to live.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:46 AM
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2. Oh good... a twofer
An incident that the pit bull banners and gun banners can both point their fingers at and screech about.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:33 AM
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6. Yup. One person giving two things a bad name.
What a shame.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:09 AM
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3. recommend
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:26 AM
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4. "When people lose everything... they lose it."
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:34 AM
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7. When people never had anything in the first place what do they do then?
What do you think those who never had anything do, grin and bear it?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:30 AM
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5. Thank goodness we live in a civilized society.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:07 AM
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8. This is the natural consequence of wilfully misinterpreting the 2nd Amendment
to fabricate a "right"to have guns in the hands of the general public.

And it's Virginia once again.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:32 AM
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9. What law do you suggest would have kept this guy from getting a gun?
I'm always curious what people think would work.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:39 AM
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11. Hence the reason the general public couldn't have guns when the Consitution was ratified
Wait a minute...
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:54 AM
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15. Well it seems
that your interpertation of the 2nd Amend goes against the vast majority of Americans. Get a new canard.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:07 PM
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16. The vast majority of Americans used to be opposed to black people marrying white people.
A Supreme Court decision in Loving v. Virginia took care of that problem.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 11:53 AM
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18. Thats right
and the SCOTUS decision regarding the individual right to keep and bear arms took care of that argument. See, I can do that also.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 11:55 AM
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20. We know how much you love those Alito/Scalia/Thomas far-right decisions!
some of us, however, have views different from the court's far-right quintuplets...
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 12:40 PM
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24. You are aware that
all 9 justices agreed that the 2nd Amend is an individual right aren't you? The other 4 just disagreed on the level of restrictions. Try reading the decision.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:47 PM
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34. Funny, the way you try and render narrow 5-4 decisions into super-majorities
Edited on Tue Aug-24-10 02:47 PM by villager
But then I guess that's what they teach at NRA school?
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 03:23 PM
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35. Apparently
you did not read the decision, once again all 9 justices agreed that the 2nd Amend conveyed an individual right of citizens to keep and bear arms what they disagreed on the level of restrictions. You can cast all the asperations you want, doesn't change the facts.
BTW what is this NRA school you speak of?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 03:41 PM
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37. Evidently, you didn't do any counting...
Edited on Tue Aug-24-10 03:42 PM by villager
Nor did you read any of the dissents in the ruling.

Hard to cop supporting a far rightwing majority when you're pretending otherwise, but there you have it...
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:36 PM
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38. Arguing with someone who
Edited on Tue Aug-24-10 05:39 PM by cowman
doesn't know the facts is useless. So let me get this straight, because I support all civil rights that makes me a far right person? You really are delusional.
Good Bye.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:45 PM
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39. "Arguing with someone who doesn't know the facts is useless"
Hey, we found something to agree on! :thumbsup:
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 01:10 PM
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26. Just as I thought
when presented with facts you do what most anti 2nd Amend people do, you run away.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:35 PM
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33. I don't think anyone here is against any amendments.
I haven't seen any calls for a constitutional convention to overturn an amendment here at DU.

They may disagree on the interpretation of the amendment and that is their right, which is also supported by an amendment.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:11 PM
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29. And black people were barred from owning guns, hence the 14th Amend.
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potassiumnitrate Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:08 PM
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17. +1000
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 11:54 AM
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19. Hey everybody look
someone who agrees with SU.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 12:00 PM
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21. When you've got saltpeter on your side, you know you're right. n/t
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 12:41 PM
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25. ???????
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:00 PM
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27. potassiumnitrate = saltpeter
:P
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:26 PM
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32. Got it
thats funny:rofl:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 12:06 PM
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22. Ahh, your stock reply.
"Give up your rights for safety."

:puke:
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:10 PM
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28. Ah, Pastor Prohi has spoken. Next sermon: the scourge of reefer. nt
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Barack2theFuture Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:35 AM
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10. so does discussion of this story
belong in the gun nut ghetto or the pit bull ghetto?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:42 AM
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12. I think the Virginia state forum would be more appropriate
It's a local news story with nothing to nourish any kind of meaningful discussion of national policy or politics.
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Barack2theFuture Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:53 AM
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14. Besides, the Virginia state forum
covers all the bases.

Good suggestion.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:14 PM
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30. Well, the controller/banners keep trying other forums...
they know what they get in the "gungeon," and they don't like it. Guess they think there is an army of folks in DU at-large who support their prohibitionism.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 10:47 AM
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13. And he had learned so well what it means to be an American
Violence as the preferred method of solving problems, might makes right, and shoot first, ask questions later. And for all his trouble learning what a good American believes and how a good American lives, he winds up getting shot dead by the police.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:17 PM
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31. Sorry, but most Americans don't act like this jackass. In fact...
the violent crime rate has been falling significantly since 1995, even as the number of firearms in civilian hands has gone up by well over 100,000,000 during the same time period.

This is NOT "what it means to be an American." I and millions of others were brought up differently.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 03:34 PM
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36. LOL
And the rest of the world is so peaceful and there is no racism\sexism, rape or murder.

Seriously.....sometimes the myopic vision in this place is mind numbing.

This is the human equation - not just the US equation.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 12:10 PM
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23. longtime alcoholic, lost an arm in a crash, and had cancer...
probably felt like he had nothing left to lose when he killed his own son....
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