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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:51 AM
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Oh Oh: Prince Harry not going to Iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6663053.stm

Prince Harry will not be sent to Iraq, the head of the British Army has said.

The Prince had previously stated that he wanted to be involved in active service with his unit.

But the Chief of the General Staff, General Sir Richard Dannatt, has confirmed the decision not to send him to the region.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:53 AM
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1. Does this mean the rest of his unit won't go either?
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mediawatch Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:37 AM
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22. I think I just heard the others wont go
The TV is on in the background. I thought I heard Harry wont go because of the risk factor and then I thought he said neither will his troops.

anyone hear anything different?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:46 AM
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25. I heard that the rest of the unit
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:53 AM
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2. He's going to be hanging out with Dr Laura's kid, eh?
:D
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:54 AM
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3. Lucky bawstard....(speak in a British accent)
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LionInWinter Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:56 AM
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4. Wonder if the capture of the 3 US soldiers had any impact on the decision.
:shrug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:57 AM
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5. So why is it OK to risk working class kids but
not royalty or the children of the rich?
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LionInWinter Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:03 AM
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9. The same reason as always...
They fear the bad PR of a captured "prince". Can you imagine the press field-day if Diana's son was captured? A previous poster questioned whether his entire unit was being re-assigned or if it was just him. The answer to that one will tell the truth of my assumption.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:32 AM
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21. The only reason the army spoke today is because
Edited on Wed May-16-07 11:35 AM by malaise
the rest of the unit is already on its way.

Responses aren't that positive...from that BBC link
<snip>
But Reg Keys - whose son Thomas was killed while on active service in Basra in 2003 - said he found the decision distasteful and questioned whether insurgents could have told the prince apart from other service personnel.

Mr Keys added: "It would appear that Harry's life is more valuable than my son or the other nearly 150 service personnel who've given their lives."
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That's the real problem. Why should anyone else's kids be at risk.
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LionInWinter Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:15 PM
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28. You're damn right.
Get everyone home - NOW!!
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:50 PM
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31. oh yea
Plus the commander who made the decision said he actually went to Iraq to check out conditions for himself, and he concluded after that trip that it was just too dangerous. YOu couldn't even give Harry a desk job in the heart of the Green Zone.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:58 AM
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6. It might be the smart move
He would be a target and draw fire along w/ unneeded attention to his
unit. British military does the right thing.
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sheerjoy Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:00 AM
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7. Protection
brought on by the Queen no doubt.... same as here in the states with * ... his drunken daughters don't hafta serve either.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:02 AM
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8. I knew the Nazi prince would never go
too busy drinking it up and partying.

:kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:11 AM
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12. And there's a test match starting at Lords tomorrow
Bet I see the jolly old chap there :D

My position is that no one should be there.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:17 AM
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14. I don't think anyone should go either
but Harry wanted to go. Oh well, have a few more :beer: Harry and forget it.

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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:22 AM
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17. Nazi prince??
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:29 AM
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19. He wore a Nazi uniform to a party with a "bad taste" theme. nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:03 AM
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Look.. there's going to be a new prime minister and even Tony Blair
said they planned to remove ALL troops within 4 months, so WHY send Prince Harry NOW, only to expose him and his "mates" to unnecessary danger.

EVERY man/woman in his unit might as well be wearing bulleyes on their helmets to help identify them as "with him".

You know there were special plans underway to capture or kill HIM, just to have a PR field day.

Why play into their hands?

No one doubts his bravery, but why throw him into that mess, just as they are withdrawing?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:10 AM
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11. True
but the worse thing is that Basra was the easy option compared to Helmand province in Afghanistan where many of the British troops are being re-deployed to.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:03 AM
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10. Wonder if they'll be any
rumblings in the British Brigrade about upper class priveleges and all that?

If Iraq is so fucking dangerous maybe they should all get out and find tony to thank him for all the trouble?
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:11 AM
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13. Am I the only one here who is happy about this?
Harry would put too many at risk by being there. He would divert attention to him and his protection. I believe him when he says that he wanted to go but I don't think it's in the best interests of his fellow soldiers to be there.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:20 AM
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15. No, I'm happy he's not going.
I'm happy for anyone who doesn't go.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:20 AM
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16. If my son was in his unit, I wouldn't want Harry to go either
Harry would have endangered everyone around him. I'd protest mightily having my son serving anywhere near him.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:22 AM
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18. I'm happy too
he would be at a greater risk than most soldiers due to who he is and, as you said, would cause added risk to those around him.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:29 AM
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20. Most of you Anti-Harry 'kids'sound as if you are rebelling
against your conservative parents! Grow up!
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:42 AM
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23. I'm happy too, and I think it was honorable for him to want to go..
Glad he isn't going!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:44 AM
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24. i think it's good, i think him being there would put his unit in more danger.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:51 AM
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26. Of course Harry's not going he's royalty.
Next you'll be expecting the Bush twins or the Romney boys to go to Iraq. Fat chance!
:sarcasm:
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:55 AM
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27. To send him would endanger every one in his unit! That is not a smart move.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:48 PM
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30. His older brother fought in the Falklands War and his father was in the WWII British Navy.
His grandmother(QEII) served during WWII as did many of his male ancestors. His father served in the armed forces as well. There is a history of military service in the royal family.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:00 PM
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32. Prince Andrew is his uncle, not his brother
Incidentally, the Queen is an old school royal where duty and honor trump everything. So, while as a grandmother she no doubt would have been incredibly anxious if Harry had gone (as would the rest of his family) it's doubtful that she would tried to keep him out of Iraq.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:18 PM
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29. I think it is good he is not going
And he is clear with his own conscience too. He was ready to die and be a part of society.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:01 PM
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33. Did that surprise anyone?
I was shocked that they would even considering sending the 3rd in line to the Throne to that hellhole.
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