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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:06 PM
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Tax Jujitsu: Why Democrats Should Propose a “People’s Tax Cut”
http://robertreich.org/post/1004761998/tax-jujitsu-why-democrats-should-propose-a-peoples


Tax Jujitsu: Why Democrats Should Propose a “People’s Tax Cut”


TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 2010


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Democrats should propose eliminating payroll taxes on the first $20,000 of income, and making up the revenue loss by applying payroll taxes to incomes above $250,000. This would give the economy an immediate boost by adding to the paychecks of just about every working American. 80 percent of Americans pay more in payroll taxes than they do in income taxes. And because lower-income people would get most of the benefit, it’s likely to be spent.

It would also give employers an extra incentive to hire because they’d save on their share of the payroll tax. And most of the incentive would be directed toward hiring lower-income workers – who have taken the biggest hit on jobs and pay during the recession.

It wouldn’t add to the deficit. Lost revenues would be made up by applying payroll taxes to income exceeding $250,000. This is certainly fair. As it is now, the Social Security payroll tax doesn’t apply to any income over $106,000. Having the tax kick in again at $250,000 would draw on the top 3 percent of earners, who (as noted) now rake in a larger portion of total income than they have in more than 80 years.

Call it the People’s Tax Cut, and let Republicans explain why they’re against it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:08 PM
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1. No, call it a "Worker's Tax Cut"
I think it would be much more descriptive.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:24 PM
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5. & we could get all the workers in the world to unite!
no backpedaling with the bush tax cuts. just let them die.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:24 PM
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6. doop
Edited on Tue Aug-24-10 05:24 PM by maxsolomon
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:03 PM
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10. You ALMOST have it.
Edited on Tue Aug-24-10 07:03 PM by Poboy
Actually you DO have it, but here nowadays we need to add a little more.

Lets call it "The American Worker Tax Freedom Act" .
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:10 PM
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11. the word "tax" can't be in it - sets people off
"the american freedom act"?
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:14 PM
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12. You might be right. We can drop that.
"The American Freedom Act"

That has a benefit that strips away all actual description, but sends those emotions to SOARING!

Patriot Act be damned, but how can you top American Freedom?!


"Are you sir against American Freedom?!!!!"
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:25 PM
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25. These days they usualy put 2 (or more) "good" words in the bill title (double plus don't you know).
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 12:26 PM by Statistical
For example the Stimulus bill wasn't just the American Recovery act or even the American Reinvestment act. Not sir it was the American Recovery AND Reinvestment Act of 2009.

So I would modify it to the "American Freedom and Prosperity Act of 2010".

If someone votes against it you ask..... Which do you hate, freedom or prosperity.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:55 PM
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14. yes, but "tax-cut" are happy words when put together.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:21 PM
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24. The American Freedom Tax-Cut Act
by jove, i think we've got it.

HIRE US, CONGRESS!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 09:14 PM
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18. OK
A little wordy, but good.
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kratos12 Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:11 PM
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2. A simple to understand, highly populist, homerun of a plan
Help the economy while actually helping the people.

Love it.

Obama, Pelosi and Reid should be on TV tonight announcing this, it would win them seats in November.

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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:15 PM
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3. Excellent idea!
They won't do it, of course.

Any phrase with "The People" in it will be avoided like the plague.

The days of populist leaders who roused the rabble and fought for them seem to be over for the time being. In their place we have faux-populist movements like the Tea Baggers, and faux-Democrats who fall all over themselves to shaft the middle class (NAFTA, etc.).

Sad.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:22 PM
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4. I likee. Populism is in the air.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:26 PM
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7. There are a million things like this the Dems *could* do
But they won't.

x(
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 06:45 PM
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9. this one would be sooooo easy. shooting fish in a barrel, and all that.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:27 PM
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8. awesome idea
:-)
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:16 PM
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13. maybe someone will run with it. Grayson, perhaps?
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Barack2theFuture Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:59 PM
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15. K&R
the republicans will come up with some rationale for "no," but what makes you think the democrats would find enough votes in the Senate? They are still short of that magic 101 votes needed to pass legislation.
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:06 PM
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16. Robert Reich had this idea in December 2009
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/


excerpt:

Wednesday, December 02, 2009
Worrisome Thoughts on the Way to the Jobs Summit


"A one-year payroll tax holiday on the first, say, $20,000 of income – which would quickly put money into peoples’ pockets and simultaneously make it cheaper for businesses to hire because they pay half the payroll tax. And a WPA style program that hires jobless workers directly to, say, insulate homes."
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 09:20 PM
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19. iirc Gore was hip to this idea too
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:52 PM
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17. It would be really fun to watch the GOP squirm
trying to decry this extra gov't spending while at the same time, demanding extra gov't spending for tax cuts for the wealthiest.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 10:00 PM
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20. K+R
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 10:08 PM
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21. Simply beautiful
The beauty is in the simplicity.

Did I mention how simple this would be and how beautiful it would look?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:08 AM
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22. kick for beauty
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:34 AM
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23. Nice idea but it ain't gonna happen, no way in hell.

You must be forgetting who runs this country, it ain't 'we the people'.

Like single payer, discussion would be nipped in the bud.

Also, that '250' number cuts right into the upper middle class, who are the among the Dems most loyal supporters at this point.
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