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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 11:58 AM
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My first and last post on the Mosque issue...
Just how big area does the "hallowed ground" encompass?

From what I understand, the Mosque to be built that is in question is 2 blocks away from ground zero.

Is the "hallowed ground" just ground zero? Is it 2 to 3 blocks around ground zero? Is it all of lower Manhattan? Is it the whole Island? Will it be the new right wing holy land?

The issue for me is rather simple. If the Mosque is isn't allowed to be built in its current stated spot, then the right wing can start moving the goal posts further and further down field.

If not here, where?

That's why, to me, it's never been about the Mosque, it's always been about control and racism.

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:01 PM
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1. As I've heard it, part of one of the planes
damaged this particular building. That's how the RW is working around the "how far is far enough" issue.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:06 PM
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2. A separated landing gear struck the top of the building
Yet, as one of our fellow members observed, he saw victims' bodies on the roof of the Burger King building near the WTC that day--and today, they are still selling Whoppers there.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:24 PM
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4. You can make the argument that BK is "hallowed ground"
I'm not sure I'd agree with it, but one could certainly make that argument. As they could for this building (which I also don't agree with). I'm just saying that this is what I've heard in response to the "how far is far enough" question.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:35 PM
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7. I'm not making that argument
I thought the observation about the BK building--which no one has argued is "hallowed ground"--serves to expose the hypocrisy of those who claim the Burlington Coat Factory is hallowed ground (either by virtue of proximity to the WTC site, or by having been struck, like many other buildings, by crash debris).

As to the "how far is far enough" question, when protesters are demonstrating against mosque sites in TN and WI--and even as far away as Temecula, CA--it seems like no place is far enough away for some.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:17 PM
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3. They could always build it on the spot where Atta's passport was found
Isn't that "soiled ground" now?
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:32 PM
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5. They should be more outraged about the businesses be built on the ACTUAL spot.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 12:34 PM
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6. Please show me where "hallowed ground" is in the Constitution, There isn't any
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 12:40 PM by Vincardog
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