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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:41 PM
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Yet another historic building in NYC is being destroyed rather than being designated a landmark..
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 04:50 PM by BrklynLiberal
A skyscraper is being built in its place.. Just what Manhattan needs...thousands more square feet of unoccupied office space...rather than creating a space of distinction and historical value for visitors to NYC to visit and stay at.

http://www.hotelpenn.com/about-our-hotel.html



vintage pics




more vintage pics at..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Pennsylvania

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The Hotel Pennsylvania was built by the Pennsylvania Railroad and operated by Ellsworth Statler. It opened on January 25, 1919<1> and was designed by the firm of McKim, Mead & White, which also designed the original columned version of Pennsylvania Station located across the street. (The old and truly magnificent Pennsylvania Station was razed tragically destroyed in 1963 to make room for Madison Square Garden and the redeveloped below-ground station in use today.)

Statler Hotels, which had managed the Pennsylvania since its construction, acquired the property outright in 1948 and renamed it the Hotel Statler. Following the sale of all 17 Statler hotels to Conrad Hilton in 1954, the hotel became The Statler Hilton. It operated under this name until the early 1980s, when Hilton sold the hotel. It was renamed The New York Statler for a brief period, and was operated by Dunfey hotels, a division of Aer Lingus. It was then purchased in 1984 by the Penta Hotels chain, a joint-venture of British Airways, Lufthansa and Swissair, becoming The New York Penta. In 1992 Penta went out of business and the hotel returned to its original name, Hotel Pennsylvania.

The hotel has the distinction of having the New York phone number in longest continuous use. The number, PEnnsylvania 6-5000, is the inspiration for the Finegan, Gray, and Sigman song of the same name. The most popular version was performed by Glenn Miller with the Andrews Sisters' version not far behind. Many big band names played in the hotel's Main Dining Room, The Cafe Rouge, including the Dorsey Brothers, Woody Herman, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, and the Glenn Miller Orchestra.

Contrary to common floor numbering practice, there is a 13th floor. The hotel states it has 22 floors from street level to the roof, plus three additional levels in the penthouse. The highest penthouse level is numbered as the 21st floor. The discrepancy in floor numbering is due to several mezzanine-type levels that carry names such as "lobby mezzanine" instead of floor numbers.

Proposed demolition

The threat of the Hotel Pennsylvania's demolition was first introduced in the late 1990s when Vornado Realty Trust bought the hotel. Vornado announced in 2007 that the hotel was to be demolished to make way for a new office building with Merrill Lynch as its anchor tenant.<2> Owner Vornado Realty Trust intended to build a 2,500,000-square-foot (232,000 m2) building by 2011.<3><4> The site is the only remaining area in Midtown Manhattan that would not require special permits for development of a new office project of that size.<5>

The threat of the Hotel Pennsylvania's demolition was first introduced in the late 1990s when Vornado Realty Trust bought the hotel. Vornado announced in 2007 that the hotel was to be demolished to make way for a new office building with Merrill Lynch as its anchor tenant.<2> Owner Vornado Realty Trust intended to build a 2,500,000-square-foot (232,000 m2) building by 2011.<3><4> The site is the only remaining area in Midtown Manhattan that would not require special permits for development of a new office project of that size.<5>

Shortly after the announcement of Vornado's plans, the staff of 2600: The Hacker Quarterly, a magazine which sponsors biennial HOPE hacker conventions at the hotel, began investigating possible ways to save the hotel from demolition.<6> They were joined by the new Save the Hotel Pennsylvania Foundation, whose members included a number of city organizations and politicians to aid in the landmarking of the hotel, including The Historic District Council, Manhattan Community Board 5, and Assemblymen Richard Gottfried.<7> In November 2007, Manhattan Community Board 5 voted 21-8 to have New York City Council landmark the historic hotel.<8> However in February 2008 the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission denied the request for landmarking.<9>
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:46 PM
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1. What a beautiful hotel!
I think it is criminal when they do this to a truly beautiful space like that. :( Too mnay are so eager to throw away the old.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:48 PM
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2. One would think that after what happened to the Late Great Penn Station they would have learned.
and one thing is for sure..there is no shortage of office space in Manhattan at this point.

The "anchor tenant" of the proposed building was Merrill Lynch..which no longer eXists!
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:05 PM
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3. That's exactly what I was going to post....
They razed this:


...and replaced it with this:


Haven't we learned?!?!?!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:42 PM
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8. Stomach turning..absolutely stomach turning...
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:36 PM
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10. I've had some great times at Madison Square Garden over the years...
Of course, it's not actually at Madison Square.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:47 PM
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12. The original Madison Square Garden was in Chelsea near MAdison Square Park
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 06:48 PM by BrklynLiberal
23rd Street and Madison Avenue Designed by STandford White.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Square_Garden_%281890%29



The tower of Madison Square Garden dominates the skyline over Madison Square and Madison Square Park in this 1908 image.

Yet another case of a magnificent, architecturally significant building being destroyed...in NYC
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:31 PM
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13. And ol' Stanny White was murdered on the roof of it...
...by Harry Kendal Thaw in 1906, all over this girl:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 06:21 AM
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14. Quite the scandal, in the day.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:20 PM
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6. SF went through that in the 70s --
where everything was about "urban renewal" -- we lost so many gems, including a few spectaculor movie places. :cry: And what went up in their places? Cement boxes with windows -- the worst of worst designs ever. :puke:

Perhaps the shitty economy will halt the development at least for awhile.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:44 PM
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9. Wow. I would have thought SF, of all places , would have been immune to that kind of crap.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:40 PM
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11. Not every old building is a landmark, however..
this has very little to do with protecting this building since most of the original interior is already long gone but has more to do with protecting the Empire State Building which will be partially blocked by the proposed new building.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:07 PM
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4. A monument to capitalism being sold off and knocked down.......
....just like the free market intended.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:09 PM
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5. That's a damn shame. God, I hate to see old buildings lost.
Redstone
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:28 PM
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7. Competing with Phoenix for the most architecturally deprived city on the planet--and I would have
thought NYC would know so much better.

How very sad.
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