Stinky The Clown
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:47 PM
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Do you think we're watching a slow motion implosion of the repubican party? |
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Their hardcore base is putting up for votes the really extreme denizens of the far right. To be sure, we'll know more come November, but as it stands now, what do you think?
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:48 PM
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They are looking mighty desperate.
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Wed Aug-25-10 07:53 PM
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27. They implode only if WE vote for Dems and against the GOP |
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If we stay home ... we lose.
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:49 PM
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And good for em, the tea party is a joke and are taking the repugs with them hopefully.
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:49 PM
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But much like the fall of Saddam, what takes the place in the vacuum may actually be worse.......
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:49 PM
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4. Jeez, it's hard to tell. Every time we think they're imploding, they |
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somehow manage to spring back. Maybe because the average Repub voter is so sheepish and slavish that they'll vote for whoever the Party bosses tell them to vote for?
I can't think of another reason.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:42 PM
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They manage to hoodwink their base and the idiots keep on voting Republican.
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:52 PM
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5. The implosion includes, but is bigger than, the republican party. |
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Subject lines and headlines seem to regularly announce phenomena from a country I don't recognize.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:01 PM
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9. It will seem more familiar if you think Orwellian |
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:34 PM
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Wed Aug-25-10 08:09 PM
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.. the country is imploding, I only wish it were just the GOP.
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:53 PM
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6. I've thought that since 2006. |
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They haven't won anything since then.
Arguably, they haven't won a Presidential election since 1988.
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Wed Aug-25-10 05:54 PM
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7. I Thought So The Other Day When The Had Boehner Give The Repug...... |
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talking points for this upcoming election. Making him the poster boy for the Repugs I think is setting him up to be dethroned. I think they know that they are not going to take either the house or senate in the fall and they are going to want a change of leadership in the house and Boehner is going to go the way of Trent Lott. Now only if they can get rid or that old fogey McConnell.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:00 PM
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8. Teabaggers are very impatient. |
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The repugs know not who they are fucking with. These nutbags will have their hides if they don't get what they want. Whatever that is.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:02 PM
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10. If they win the House in November, they will emerge stronger than ever. |
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Obama will instantly be a lame duck. 2012 win or not.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:02 PM
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11. History is against this trend |
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but it is possible.
Remember it is rare that the party in power does not lose seats, like oh 1932 rare.
If it happens, it will go a long way in confirming my suspicions that we are seeing the whig phase of the GOP.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:03 PM
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13. If only it were fast motion enough for November |
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At the moment, however, the American people don't seem to be paying attention enough think beyond, "Economy bad. Democrats in charge. Democrat's fault. Replace with Republicans."
If the lunacy of the Tea Party extremism which Republicans have embraced hasn't sunk in yet, if the lies and misrepresentations of Fox News et al continue to be swallowed whole, and if not enough voters are smart enough to realize that it's mostly Republican policies that have caused the current mess, then a full implosion of the Republican party won't happen until Republicans get in power again and fuck things up so badly even the oblivious can't help but see Republicans are to blame.
Of course, even then, after Republicans had regained power, driven us into an even deeper hole than we're in now, worse the the Great Depression, trampled even more on our rights, started more wars, shifted even more wealth to the wealthy, further trashed the environment, Democrats would probably still be spineless in their fear of aggressively fighting back. Democrats could gain power after such a Republican disaster only to lose it again in two year's time, blamed for not having fixed that even bigger mess fast enough to satisfy the zero-memory American voter.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:06 PM
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14. I don't want to see a one-party system |
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The GOP has shot itself in the foot with its intransigence in Congress and its embrace of extremism and know-nothing teabaggery. They'll try to move more to the center after the primaries, but they've created a monster that's unlikely to go along so easily. They need a real reformation of the party if they hope to remain relevant.
I don't want to see the destruction of the GOP. I would like to see them purge their party of extremism and return to a more rational, principled conservatism.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:09 PM
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15. Their biggest followers in population are the teabaggers sympathizers - government is bad. Obama wa... |
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born in Kenya. Give the rich a break, don't raise their taxes types.
This is the problem.
The suit and tie and pearl necklace Republicans are in the minority.
Rovians seem to be a third part.
Some of those Party heads may be so worried about fracturing and confusion that they may be planning the biggest heist of votes ever.
And you know who would be leading that. He's one of many who are not in jail yet. He has the most experience.
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:09 PM
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16. Continuum on the road to |
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their ideal conservative party. I think there are a lot of veiled closet pukes who are thrilled with the far right shove - they're just seeing how it plays with the Money. There may be a few who are uncomfortable with the climate, but very few. Those few will turn independent. These assholes pushing the extreme right are just spewing what a lot of these Republicans have wanted to say for years - now they have an excuse - it's a 'grassroots', movement. (funded by right wing power mongers) SaWeet Jesus, we're delivered!
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:15 PM
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17. but now the democratic party is ideally positioned to take over the traditional republican space |
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Wed Aug-25-10 06:43 PM
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20. They really are putting in the most bat-shit craziest people to run |
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for office and then actually voting for them. I don't know if they will implode, but I do think the trend is dangerous for all of us - both sides.
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Wed Aug-25-10 07:23 PM
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22. The implosion is too damn slow.... we need it to happen before November |
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Wed Aug-25-10 07:30 PM
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23. Let's make damn sure those minority creeps are crushed come November |
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If every citizen who voted for Obama in 2008 votes for Democrats in Nov. 2010 -- WE'LL WIN.
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Wed Aug-25-10 07:32 PM
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24. They blew up in 2006 but as with other explosions they take credit for it |
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Wed Aug-25-10 07:46 PM
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25. I wouldn't write their |
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obituary just yet. Particularly since they are adept at dirty tricks, diebolding, etc.
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Wed Aug-25-10 07:55 PM
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28. it depends on the mid terms... if we do well then the (R)s may implode |
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the expectations for them is so high that without meeting those expectations all the tea party types will feel betrayed.
If they pick up enough seats to take control of the House then it will be enough of a victory for them to pull it together again for a while.
They need one more big loss to really pull them apart.
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Wed Aug-25-10 08:00 PM
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29. There are indicators that certainly continue to look bad for Republicans |
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as we know them to be. Indicators that our Blue Dogs and some of our centrists may take their place eventually too is also very likely.
The Tea Baggers are helping the implosion, but it is one hell of a slow process.
I firmly believe that until we demand and fight for public funded elections, the status quo will take much longer to change. In the mean time you take what good comes your way and work harder, not much choice left to us anyway.
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Wed Aug-25-10 08:06 PM
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30. No I think the opposite, I think we're witnessing a corporate merger. |
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And the teabaggers - the lunatic fringe - are the types who believe in the original philosophy of the company and don't want to be integrated.
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Wed Aug-25-10 08:10 PM
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32. The answer to that question depends upon whether or not their |
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voting constituency is as dumb and mean as the candidates think they are. nt
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Wed Aug-25-10 08:50 PM
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33. The Republican Party died in 2008. |
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The "Centrist" Democrats resurrected the dead corpse Republican Party through "seeking bi-partisan consensus", and then gave them credibility for opposing the Health Insurance Reform farce.
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Thu Aug-26-10 02:04 AM
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Repeatedly legitimizing them when they were dead instead of just stepping over their corpse was not a good idea.
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Wed Aug-25-10 08:51 PM
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34. If the republican party dies, the democratic party will have to split. |
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That can only be a good thing at this point.
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