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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:36 AM
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Tropical Storm Earl now a hurricane
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 07:59 AM by malaise

Her history is troubling and unless he slows down significantly, somewhere on the mainland will be hit.


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:42 AM
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1. Which one of those little islands are you on, and are
you out of the path? (Yea, D-- in geography:))
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:50 AM
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3. He's on the little one under the eastern end of Cuba. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:58 AM
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6. She thank you
:D

Jamaica - this one shouldn't be our problem - I'll be looking our for Gaston even though he hasn't rolled off Africa yet.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:30 PM
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20. Woops
Sorry about that! :hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:53 PM
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38. No biggie
:D
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:20 PM
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43. Who's F?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:37 PM
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50. Fiona nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:49 AM
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2. It is projected to swing north and the Carolinas are inside its range...
If it passes over Delaware and NJ, we will probably get some of the rain and minor wind in PA - we get at one or two a season.

mark
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:02 AM
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8. Yep the Carolinas better keep an eye on this one
Invest 97 (soon to be Fiona) is coming quickly on it's heels.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:55 AM
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4. Oh lordy lordy
South Shore of L.I. here..

(I hate hurricane season..)
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:07 AM
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9. Get your flashlight batteries NOW...nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 09:43 AM
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15. HEY NEIGHBOR! We need the rain something fierce though.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:26 PM
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19. Here's my worry
Models versus actual history

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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:58 AM
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5. Earl just now upgraded to hurricane
Watching the weather channel this morning (they have fairly good Katrina coverage) and they just upgraded Earl at 7:50 am CDT. Surface winds just over 75 mph.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:00 AM
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7. Thanks
Changed the subject
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:08 AM
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10. And "Fiona " is now right on his heels
I have a bad feeling about these new systems.
Thank you for your periodic weather updates.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:14 AM
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12. You're welcome
I'm worried about the one behind soon to be Fiona. Male storms love Jamaica. :D
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:10 AM
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11. Stay safe, everyone!
Off topic, I know, but a map projection like the one above still amazes me - especially the relative positions of land in the Americas & in Europe & Africa. Spain & Portugal are on the same parallels with North Carolina up to the middle Atlantic seaboard, while France goes as far north as Newfoundland. The British Isles are roughly in-line with Labrador. Good thing they've got the Gulf Stream, huh? Icelanders appreciate it too!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:17 AM
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13. Almost September -
that's when we start stockpiling supplies down here in South Texas, and preparing for "Hurricane Vacation" in case we need to evacuate.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 08:25 AM
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14. Yes if you're on the Atlantic, Caribbean or GOM coast
you'd better be ready from the end of August through October.



NOAA Graphic
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 09:46 AM
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16. This one is set to hit New England.
Hurricanes generally lose strength after they leave the Gulf Stream, but they still have the potential to wreck a lot of stuff when they hit that far north.

I have the photos to prove it.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 09:54 AM
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17. Hurricanes of 1955...
I had a couple of booklets with photos showing what happened all the way up here in south central Massachusetts.

Scary stuff
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 10:06 AM
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18. You may be right
:hi:
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:31 PM
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21. I'm definitely watching this one from the Connecticut shoreline nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:36 PM
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22. I tend to think outer Cape Cod will feel it most
but who knows? My crystal ball is often cloudy when it comes time to foretell where a hurricane is going to go.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:37 PM
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23. If it goes straight up, it would cross LI and hit us.
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 12:39 PM by NutmegYankee
It looks like it may curve out, but it's still uncertain... The Great Hurricane of 1938 did just that.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:40 PM
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42. We got hit with that 38 Hurricane. Eastern LI on south shore was devastated
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:44 AM
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40. This is one big ass hurricane
and somewhere is going to get hit
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:49 AM
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41. I just hope it's not Haiti, not even with the storm out to sea
because too many people there are still living under tarps.

Yes, they can be crammed in like sardines inside the cement buildings still standing or which have been repaired, but I wouldn't wish that sort of thing on Cheney.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 04:34 PM
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46. I'd wish it on Cheney
Haiti will be lucky this time. The North East will face rain but the worst part of Earl will miss them.


Meanwhile there's a new storm in town - Fiona

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201008.html
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:40 PM
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24. I just looked at the NOAA site...
it has the middle of the cone of probability heading straight up the Connecticut River...

Things could get nasty for CT, RI, and MA...


Are you anywhere near the mouth of the CT river, also?

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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:45 PM
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26. I'm a few miles to the East.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:57 PM
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31. OK, yep...I know the general area... n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:27 PM
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47. Looks like you're right
Intensity forecast for Earl
Wind shear as diagnosed by the latest SHIPS model forecast is nearly non-existent over Earl--just 4 knots--but is expected to increase to the moderate range, 10 - 15 knots, tonight through Thursday afternoon, due to upper level winds out of the southwest from a trough of low pressure to Earl's west. This shear should not appreciably affect Earl between now and Thursday, since the hurricane is so large and strong. Ocean temperatures are a near-record 30°C, and very warm waters extend to great depth, resulting in a total ocean heat content highly favorable for continued intensification. Earl should continue to intensify until reaching Category 4 or 5 strength on Tuesday, and will probably maintain major hurricane status through Thursday, when it will make its closest approach to North Carolina. The hurricane will probably undergo at least one eyewall replacement cycle during that period, which will diminish its winds by 20 - 30 mph for a day or so. By Friday, when Earl will be making its closest approach to New England, wind shear will rise to a high 20 - 30 knots and ocean temperatures will plunge to 20°C, resulting in considerable weakening. Earl will still probably be a Category 2 hurricane on Friday, when it could potentially make landfall in Massachusetts. Earl is more likely to be a Category 1 hurricane on Saturday morning, when it could potentially make landfall in Maine or Nova Scotia, Canada.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:43 PM
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25. 5 day forcast. Cape Cod residents, pay attention.
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 12:43 PM by alfredo
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:46 PM
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27. This map is the one to be nervous about
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 12:48 PM by starroute
On edit: Deleted the image, since I saw it had already been posted while I was still copying-and-pasting.

But yes, those red dots are getting scary.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:13 PM
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36. The models for this one anticipated a slower storm
which meant another system would push this North.

It's still moving quickly so we shall soon see. My fear is that it will turn North but too late to prevent some impact on the mainland. I hope I'm wrong.

I've going to check out the comments on Jeff Masters blog - some great weather folks post there.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1591&tstamp=&page=19
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:48 PM
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28. And the models were showing that Ike was going to curve out into the Atlantic
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 12:53 PM by Strelnikov_
The models used today are amazing, but they depend on projections of numerous climatic features.

If I remember correctly, something moved/dissipated sooner than anticipated, and it was lookout Houston.

The moment of truth for Earl, is rapidly approaching.

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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:52 PM
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30. The jitters up here is a repeat of 1938.
The great hurricane of 1938 got trapped between the Bermuda High and a front over the Appalachian Mountains and was forced north at ~50 MPH hitting LI, NY and then New Haven, CT as a Cat 3 with winds of 120-125 MPH. It devastated the coastline where I now live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Hurricane_of_1938
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:59 PM
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32. Based on todays models, FEMA should be preparing
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 01:05 PM by Strelnikov_
for a massive eastern seaboard event, as you reference.

As time compresses, resources can be shifted as required.

Its risk management. Like global warming, prudent managers do not wait until major hurricanes are proved 100% certain to make preparations.

Edit to add: Especially considering that that last few years the models seem to be consistently under estimating energy (strength).



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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:23 PM
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44. For some reason I think it'll hit the Carolinas. -nt
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:29 PM
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49.  the models are based on current weather input
Earl is caught betwen two high pressure zones - up the east coast he goes - the models are all pretty tight on this.
It's going to get swept up by the same conditions that just blew Hurricane Danielle out to sea



Cape Verde storms are pretty predictable this time of year, historically - except for Ike





and Andrew






Fiona could be trouble, it's coming right along the same path, with more time to build, and in Earls wake

see Andrew - 1992


or we could have 3 fish storms back to back to back - that's a good bet too

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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:54 PM
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53. ..
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:56 PM by Strelnikov_
Screw it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:51 PM
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29. You folks stay safe
ok.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:08 PM
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33. Yep. Start preparing now.
Don't wait until the last minute. It's never a bad idea to have emergency supplies on hand, anyway. Water, batteries, medications, non-perishable foods, etc.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:10 PM
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34. And he hasn't even started feeding yet
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:12 PM
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35. Oh fuck!!!!
That don't look good at all.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:45 PM
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39. RIght now all I'm hoping is that Earl turns North
Haiti cannot take a hurricane now. Turn Earl turn.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:39 PM
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37. It's been a few years since anything north of the Carolinas have been hit
We're due for one.

-Hoot
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:27 PM
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45. That means it's someone else's turn! Just kidding. nt
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Omar4Dems Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:23 PM
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48. Am I wrong, but doesn't the OP map show it to be a cat 4?
That pink mark, that's where it's at now, right? Category 4? Puerto Rico must be getting doused with rain right about now.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:41 PM
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51. You're not wrong. Here's the latest IR still image from NOAA.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 02:03 PM
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58. The Bahamas will take big hit
Damn!
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:43 PM
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52. yes, Earl turned Cat 4 today nt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:55 AM
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54. Looks like the cold front is not steering it clear of the
coast.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 01:55 PM
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57. not unlikely we'll get some of the wind/rain.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:58 AM
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55. Hunker down!
Makes sure you have plenty of batteries, toilet paper, junk food as well as easy to make food. If your electricity goes out it's a good idea to have your propane grill on hand to help cook the meals (have a filled spare can on hand).
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:11 PM
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56. better stay the f. away from Northern VA :(((((
please please please :beg: We're trying to finish building our pond this week :*
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