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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:25 AM
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When Will We All Need to Carry Identity Papers?
When Will We All Need to Carry Identity Papers?

by Jerry Lanson

Once again, what we don't know about the erosion of rights in this country can be as bad as what we do.

While Americans debate and litigate the Arizona law authorizing search and seizure of anyone police "reasonably suspect" to be an illegal immigrant, U.S. immigration officials on trains and buses up to 100 miles south of the Canadian border are confronting and sometimes strip-searching dark-skinned passengers whose only "crime" may be that they bought a public-transportation ticket to travel within the United States, The New York Times reports.

It's part of what some consider the new and improved border patrols to protect "the homeland" from potential terrorists. No matter that the kind of people being stopped, The Times reports, include an 60-year-old Ecuadoran-born U.S. citizen who carries a passport while visiting her sister in the Midwest because she's been stopped before and hassled without it. No matter that it includes a Taiwanese-born PhD student who, two days after delivering a paper at a Chicago conference, was taken from a train -- one that had never crossed any borders -- in Batavia, N.Y., strip-searched in a detention center and held, facing detention, because his visa had expired. No matter that a 21-year-old Long Island high school graduate was taken from the Lake Shore Limited in Rochester, N.Y., held for three weeks while her mother frantically tried to reach her and released at night at a rural Texas gas station.

These are not rumors. They are true stories, reported and told by The New York Times. They smack of overt racial profiling: How many blue-eyed Swedes and fair-skinned Russians do you think have been stopped on the trains and buses, whether they are gangsters, terrorists or simply PhD students? And they raise chilling reminders of World War II movies in which Nazi soldiers would walk down the aisles of trains looking for Jews.

"It's turned into a police state on the northern border," Cary M. Jensen, director of international services for the University of Rochester told The Times. He said foreign students, scholars and parents all have been questioned and, in some cases, jailed because the patrol did not recognize their legal status, the paper reports.

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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:40 AM
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1. To answer your question about Identity Cards
the proposed reforms to the Immigration Laws presently being pushed by Schumer and Durban call for a "forgery-proof" national ID card that, as I understand matters, everyone will have to carry.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:02 AM
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6. I will civilly disobey and refuse to carry one.
n/t
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:41 AM
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2. Well I guess it is that time of year again.....
the same story gets regurgitated every year by some wanna be pundit!

I have travelled on the LSL a few times, each year, and have never seen this. Others have.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:46 AM
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3. I'll add my own story
because I know the people involved.

An Indian born naturalized US citizen is being held in Germany because she bought an airline ticket (r/t) from the US to India to visit relatives, she was on her way back to the US where she IS A CITIZEN and has a job, husband, children... her crime? The airline ticket was purchased under the the name "Kumari XXX YYY" which is the Indian equivalent of "Mrs" or Miss" while the name on her US passport is XXX YYY.

She has been held in Frankfurt (where she has no friends or family) for 2 days now.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:52 AM
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4. Soon!
When the fascist take over
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:58 AM
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5. K&R. It's for the safety of our country..... Everyone needs to carry I.D.
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 08:59 AM by midnight
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:03 AM
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7. Did you forget the sarcasm emoticon?
?
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:09 AM
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8. This scene won't be too far away...

May we see your papers, please?
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:52 PM
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9. Not exactly the same
but still deeply troubling.

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:49 AM
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10. Hell, he GOP has been pushing for national identity cards since the Reagan years.
Of course THEIR ID cards are for preventing Welfare and food stamp fraud - it all comes down to money and oppressing the poor.



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