TWEETY YOU ARE AN IDIOT

[nadinbrzezinski]

I will not forget you saying... WE ARE ALL NEOCONS TODAY...

But I guess we all remember what is convenient at the moment... huh?

[malaise]

1. Yep Tweety has forgotten his support for

Bushco's illegal invasion.

[LostInAnomie]

2. And his drooling over Bush's "Mission Accomplished" cod piece.

[Cassandra]

5. That was my first thought...

when he said that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Statue of Sadam coming dowin

that was the day he said it.

Of course Engel put it in full context during the last day of the war coverage... when he told us that yes Iraqis did that... since they were Shia who hated Sadam... helped by Marines who were avenging 9.11, with a Tower flag as well.

That was the NIGHT Tweety said that.

[RainDog]

9. you mean the FAKED propaganda moment to prop up Chalabi moment...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,993909,00.html

Time magazine, as usual, proves its irrelevance by being only a year late reporting the (some of) truth... and ignoring a BIG part of it...

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Actually Mr. Engel gave a very valid explanation to it

one that was far more "true" than this... and one that any Intel Officer worth his or her worth, would have been able to spot sectarian problems.

But that is ok.

I guess all was done by the CIA (which did not acknowledge bombs or WMDs), and of course we could not see LOCALS actually being pissed at Sadam since their MAJORITY group was under great pressure and threat by the Sunni...

But carry on... all is a conspiracy made up by central casting at Langley. I guess so is this presidency... manufactured at Langley... too.

By the way... while you show me this... I've watched many a feeds from many a news media of what happened there by many outlets...

[RainDog]

15. links?

thanks for your response.

it would be nice if you explained rather than insulted but this is DU, after all.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Engel went over that

oh two weeks ago on the RM show... he and RM went into depth over that, and other events during the war...

Oh and sorry if you felt insulted but I have gotten pretty tired of the undercurrent of conspiracy that runs through the US... I know it is historic... and OLD, but that don't mean I am not tired of it.

[RainDog]

20. okay, so no links

thanks

[RainDog]

21. oh, I took one minute and found a link

http://milazzonpolitics.com/tag/richard-engel/

Remembering the Fall of Baghdad with Richard Engel on Rachel Maddow.

And, in everything he says, he says absolutely NOTHING to dispute the fact that Chalabi was flown in by Wolfowitz, along with his crew, when the statue was pulled down.

Time also talks about Chalabi being flown into Iraq at that time.

So, whatever you wanted to refer to as a conspiracy theory in my post is in no way disputed by anything Engel said.

Because the truth is that, as noted in the video - Engel reinforces what my post refers to - which is that the event as it was presented on American tv, as Maddow notes, was nothing like the event as it occurred - it was no "fall of the Berlin Wall" equivalent. It was a small sectarian group and a photo op for Chalabi.

IOW, you insulted me for no reason. but, again, this is DU, so no surprise.

[chimpymustgo]

19. Some of us will never forget. K&R.

[frazzled]

8. Actually, he vociferously opposed it from the beginning

It's weird to hear people all the time spew statements as fact, when they're dead wrong.

I attended a private event at which Matthews was speaking, and came to confront him over lies he'd told during the 2000 election about Gore. But before it got around to questions like that, Matthews devoted almost the entirety of his talk to railing against the war (this was in 2002, before the war even started). He excoriated the neocons (by name) in no uncertain terms. He said the war would be illegal. No problems with him about his war stance. He opposed it from before it even began.

As a postscript: my questions to him about his political chicanery during the 2000 elections so terrified him that he could barely answer. Afterward, I was having dinner with the host of the event , who told me Matthews had asked "who was that woman? I know I know her from somewhere." Hah, I'm nobody, and he never met me in his life. He was just surprised to find someone who could quote his writing and television comments, and cite Columbia School of Journalism statistics about his Gore-bashing ... and he was caught with his pants down. It was one of my proudest moments.

So no, I'm no fan of Tweety's. But on the war I give him creds. You're just dead wrong about this.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. So I imagined him saying we are all Necons tonight?

Ok...

[frazzled]

12. You'd have to give me the transcript and context ...

Because I know for a fact he despises the neocons with a passion. Maybe he meant we were all complicit in this unnecessary war. I don't know what he said. And sometimes his frontal lobe just turns off. We know he's a gaffe-prone motor mouth and often an idiot. But he was NOT saluting the neocons. That's for sure.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. 2003 Faris square, Sadam Statue going down

Have fun... I did not imagine him saying that.

[frazzled]

14. Oh, then you don't understand irony

I thought you meant he said it tonight. Back then, it would have been even more ironic.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. That was irony?

Ok... perhaps having a husband on the front lines got my irony meter completely whacked.

[bullwinkle428]

3. I was SCREAMING at the TV when he was spewing that bilge tonight!

:argh:

[CreekDog]

4. Even when I agree with him, I think it's safest to assume he's an idiot

:shrug:

he was smarter in print.

[Dr.Phool]

7. *****BREAKING***** Wet Water Is Discovered!

[The Backlash Cometh]

18. For me, that's like saying we are all nazis today.