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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:10 AM
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Is it true that 97% of republicans are NOT REALLY CHRISTIANS?
Definition of CHRISTIAN
1a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

O.k., I made that number up to make a point, which is that practically NONE of the contemporary so called Christian republicans are actually practicing Christians at all. This fact should be SCREAMED into their faces when they accuse Barack Obama of not being a Christian.

Do they try to emulate Christ every day? Fuck no. Do they want to feed the poor and house the homeless and care for the sick? Fuck no.

Do they love their enemies? Do they do unto others as they would have done to themselves? Fuck no. So when the pretend to be a Christian, or when they accuse someone else of NOT being a Christian, they should be flat out called on it, right to their phony faces.

If newt gingrich claims to be a Christian someone should say, "Oh yeah, PROVE IT ASSHOLE"! Same for glenn blech, lady bla bla and all the other fuckwit republicans, WE SHOULD NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:12 AM
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1. Reading for comprehension apparently is too great an
obstacle for most Republicans.

The New Testament, especially, appears on all counts to have eluded them.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:12 AM
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2. Yay! No true Scotsman! n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:15 AM
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3. Someone related an account elsewhere that Beck state he took out $20 at church.
When that showed up I calculated that he should be tithing at least $60,000 a week based on his reported wages of $32 million.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:18 AM
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4. Christianity today is NOT Christianity. It's designer-Christianity. Each flock makes
up their own rules and version.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:25 AM
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5. Not in the sense of "liberation" theology . . . .
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 09:26 AM by no_hypocrisy
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:27 AM
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6. It's all bullshit. Anything to win, dontcha know?
What's the famous quote? Wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross...
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:31 AM
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7. Bullshit unchallenged = Bullshit condoned and believed
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:43 AM
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8. I have walked away from involvement in any fundamentalist church...
Largely for the reasons you noted in your OP. But as a lifelong evangelical fundamentalist Christian (now very lapsed), I can share the following with you: To become a Real True Christian (RTC) a) one must believe that Jesus is the Son of God, that he came to earth in human form to suffer, then die on the cross for the sins of the mankind--that would be every human being; b) one must confess that Jesus is Lord and personally accept him as Savior (aka say the magic words), at which point one's sins are forgiven and one can devote one's life to serving God through Jesus; c) one can then legitimately call onesself a Christian (i.e, "saved"); d) in the Baptist and other iterations of Christianity, one must follow the Lord in baptism, preferably immersion, thus giving evidence of one's conversion; e) one can then share the gospel with everyone (it's called evangelizing), to bring others into the fold and spare them from eternal damnation in the fires of hell. An RTC must always be aware of one's actions (sins are forgiven but the sinning doesn't magically stop) and regularly confess one's sins and ask forgiveness for specific individual missteps.

I once thought being a Christian meant acting like one, which was one way of sharing the gospel. There's a verse in the Bible that says "By their fruits you shall know them". Right about now, given the way I've seen Christians conduct their lives, I'm not sure about any of this. I remain confused, angry, frustrated and have pretty much shut down on the whole scenario. That being said, I know some very fine Christians who live their faith. They are, in my world, however, becoming fewer and fewer. As I once read, "Christ must be accepted, not on the merits of those who bear his name but on the merits of him alone." Cut out the middle man, I suppose.

Sorry to go on so long, but the whole "being a Christian" thing bears some in-depth explanation. There are doubtless those who see this differently, but this is how I was raised to believe. The Bible also says, "Judge not lest ye be judged". I always thought that meant we should not make judgments about others' relationship with God. Apparently there are a lot of "Christians" of late who have forgotten that verse.

Blessings.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:55 AM
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9. But but but...they're against abortion and gay marriage!
That's all that matters, right?
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:58 AM
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10. Many political christians
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 10:00 AM by Sheepshank
use the term, the bible and any christ-like teachings as a bludgeon to press their own agenda. Nothing more than that. It'sbecome a manipulative tool to herd the masses, not a way of life. Beckkkkk and Palin and Bachmann come to mind.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:39 AM
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11. NO WAY
100% are not Christian.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:38 PM
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12. Far more than that.
I'd put the percentage that aren't Christians at 99.96%.

Oddly, I think that's that's the same percentage of non-Xian Democrats and independents (and Independents, if you're in a state with such a party).


Just as a guess. I could be off by as much as +/- 0.02%.

Unless, of course, we open up the definition of "Jesus Christ" to include all the various versions out there. Then the percentage of non-Xian repubs/dems/indies is going to be vastly smaller.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:00 PM
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13. I'd bet more
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 02:02 PM by LatteLibertine
than a few recognize religion to be good for keeping folks manageable. It may keep the population being good little worker bees and mindless consumers who are largely only concerned about a reward in the next life. Religion definitely benefits the status quo.

So ya' I feel many Republicans don't give a squat about Christianity outside of using it as a tool for control.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:39 PM
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14. .
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:45 PM
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15. There is no such thing as a conservative extremist Christian.
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 02:50 PM by AnArmyVeteran
There is nothing darker than conservative extremist souls, if they have them. Right wing religious fanaticism is evil and filled with hatred, yet they claim to be Christians. 

No one can be a Christian and a conservative extremist at the same time. They are exact opposites. Conservatives hate all of Jesus' teachings and if Jesus was somehow pulled off the cross before he died, right wing conservatives would stand around demanding he produce an insurance card before allowing him to get medical treatment. 

And since Jesus was a deadbeat who owned no possessions, had a job or owned a house they would further condemn him and laugh as he bled to death. 

Conservative extremist Christians are evil. 
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