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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 01:55 AM
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Grrrrrrr! Read the latest Nation?
Edited on Thu May-17-07 02:14 AM by Duppers
I've had the utmost respect for the publication 'til now, but I'm now canceling my scrip.

One of the Nation's authors has stomped one of the best, if not THE best person in public service, Al Gore. If "progressive liberals" write/think like this, then whothefuck needs the reich wing!

And he trashed the most important crisis facing the planet while not giving a single factual argument to support his claims, the other than some ginned-up accusations about Gore and NASA scientists being money grubbing asskissers of the nuclear/coal/oil corporations! The stupid sonofabitch! He points to high temps as if he has never heard of bifurcations---well, of course not, such things are never taught in English courses and he'll never do enough background reading to understand the subject in the first place!!

Alexander Cockburn may have an English Lit degree from Oxford, but he has not the foggiest idea nor minute appreciation regarding how science works--which bring me to one of my biggest peeves:
If four years of science were required in US schools, just as the four years of English are, this country would then be a better place.


Here's Cocburn's latest; tell me what you think:

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Beat the devil by Alexander Cockburn

Who Are the Merchants of Fear?


...The world's best-known hysteric and self-promoter on the topic of man's physical and moral responsibility for global warming is Al Gore, a shill for the nuclear and coal barons from the first day he stepped into Congress entrusted with the sacred duty to protect the budgetary and regulatory interests of the Tennessee Valley Authority and the Oak Ridge National Lab. White House advisory bodies on climate change in the Clinton/Gore years were well freighted with nukers like Larry Papay of Bechtel.

As a denizen of Washington since his diaper years, Gore has always understood that threat inflation is the surest tool to plump budgets and rouse voters. By the mid-'90s he'd positioned himself at the head of a strategic alliance formed around "the challenge of climate change," which stepped forward to take Communism's place in the threatosphere essential to political life.


The foot soldiers in this alliance have been the grant-guzzling climate modelers and their Internationale, the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, whose collective scientific expertise is reverently invoked by devotees of the fearmongers' catechism. The IPCC has the usual army of functionaries and grant farmers and the merest sprinkling of actual scientists with the prime qualification of being climatologists or atmospheric physicists.

....Man-made-global-warming theory is fed by pseudo-quantitative predictions from climate careerists working primarily off the megacomputer General Circulation Models, whose home ports include the National Center for Atmospheric Research, NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies and the Department of Commerce's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Lab.

These are multibillion-dollar computer modeling bureaucracies as intent on self-preservation and budgetary enhancement as cognate nuclear bureaucracies at Oak Ridge and Los Alamos. They are as unlikely to develop models refuting the hypothesis of human-induced global warming as is the IPCC to say the weather is getting a little bit warmer but there's no great cause for alarm. Threat inflation is their business. Think of the culture that engendered the nonexistent missile gap of the late 1950s and you'll get some sense of the political, economic and bureaucratic forces at work today stoking panic at the specter of man-made global warming and the nuclear plants needed to fight it.

By the late 1980s the UN high brass clearly perceived the "challenge" of climate change to be the horse to ride to build up the organization's increasingly threadbare moral authority and to claim a role beyond that of being an obvious American errand boy. In 1988 it gave us the IPCC.

The cycle of alarmist predictions is now well established. Not long before some new UN moot, a prominent fearmonger like James Hansen or Michael Mann will make a tremulous statement about the accelerating tempo of the warming crisis. The cry is taken up by the IPCC and headlined by the New York Times, with exactly the same lack of critical evaluation as that newspaper's recycling of the government's lies about Saddam's WMDs.

When measured reality doesn't cooperate with the lurid model predictions, new compensating factors are "discovered," such as the sulfate aerosols popular in the 1990s, recruited to cool off the obviously excessive heat predicted by the models. Or inconvenient data are waterboarded into submission, as happened with ice-core samples that failed to confirm the modelers' need for record temperatures today. As Richard Kerr, Science's man on global warming, remarked, "Climate modelers have been 'cheating' for so long it's almost become respectable."

The consequence? As with the arms-spending spiral powered by the cold war fearmongers, vast sums of money will be uselessly spent on programs that won't work against an enemy that doesn't exist. Meanwhile, real and curbable environmental perils are scanted. Hysteria rules the day, drowning useful initiatives such as environmental cleanup, while smoothing the way for the nuclear industry to reap its global rewards.

Next: Are things really that bad?



http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070528/cockburn

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:04 AM
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1. I wouldn't cancel a subscription over one author and one article
One of my subscriptions has articles every so often that piss me off, but I write to them and tell them about it instead and keep the magazine going.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:13 AM
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2. i canceled my subscription after their articles on the 2004 election
THANK GOD THE ELECTION WASN'T STOLEN
THE PEOPLE SPOKE AND REELECTED GEORGE BUSH

whatever the fuck i was reading -- couldn't believe it. they didn't have the courage to speak the truth. i didn't have the desire to renew my subscription. (i was so mad!--fuck them)
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:18 AM
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3. bless a milkcow!
Fuck them is right! Had I known, I'd never have sent 'em a cent of my money.

I've respected vanden Heuvel, but do you think she doesn't read everything before it's out? I searching for straws here to explain this.



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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:01 AM
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6. "bless a milkcow"??? n/t
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 04:41 AM
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9. just an old, old expression of disgust.
it's southern too. ;)

I'm with ya, btw.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:52 AM
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13. Sort of a rural saying - "God bless a milkcow."
Suprised you hadn't heard about it down in Orleans. We say it all the time in Tennessee. :)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:50 AM
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26. (check my profile. i'm not "down in orleans") n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:39 AM
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14. Why would you bless
Laura Bush because of this? :shrug:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:11 AM
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16. cow not sow.
:D
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:19 AM
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4. what i think? i like cockburn, but he did lose some grey matter
somewhere along the line. it seems to show up in about 20% - 25% of his articles these days. he's still got it much more together than his ex pal christopher hitchens who totally lost his mind in the bottom of a bottle some time back. overall though i think cockburn still has his heart in the right place, especially when he's writing about forest practices. i gotta say i'm a bit surprised by this position.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:57 AM
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5. Hmm. It's a hit-piece all right. On behalf of what interests?
Not very well written and far to strongly "against" climate-change science.

Although, if you know anything about the way science is done, the reference to the "usual army of functionaries and grant farmers" strikes home.

And, it's a good point that many other problems, issues, arising out of human society's often perverse relationship with the natural environment do tend to fade out of view under the glare of climate-change publicity.

Bottom line: it is, to be honest, vital that those of us who are observing (and trying to do something - socially, politically, economically - about it) man-made climate change should acknowledge that there are also entirely natural climate-change factors - including but not limited to solar activity and that of this planet's magnetic field.

Cheers and please don't get disheartened. We have a long way to go.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 04:49 AM
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10. know anything about the way science is done?
Yes, I do indeed. Married to a damn good physicist who knows all about the politics of grants, thanks.

I'm going stay pissed at The Nation for publishing that drivel.


Thanks for your good wishes; they help. :)


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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:30 AM
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7. to be fair, sort of
His 'factual' arguments against global warming were in the piece he did two issues ago.
http://www.thenation.com/docprem.mhtml?i=20070514&s=cockburn

It sounded like the usual suspects
1) it's not man's doing
2) we've had cycles before
3) the earth's orbit goes back and forth
4) water vapor is the biggest greenhouse gas
5) global warmers are just in it for the money

I am not far enough into the weeds on this issue to rebut alot of that.

But as far as the "vast sums of money will be uselessly spent on programs that won't work against an enemy that doesn't exist."

First, that's only gonna happen if Democrats get elected, isn't it? Bush is still, like Cockburn, a global warming denier. Are any of the ten Republicans pushing global warming solutions?

Second, aren't many of the programs going to have side benefits, like better gas mileage and less particulate pollution?
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:04 AM
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11. Cockburn based his opinions on the works/word of one man
basically---Martin Hertzberg, who has a respectful Stanford pedigree. I'm not familiar with his work, but he seems to be a lone voice, outside of the Exxon financed idiot at UVa, who disclaims C02 man-made global warming.

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:15 PM
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23. RealClimate had a go at that piece here:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/05/this-week/

Yes, there are a lot of side benefits to doing something about carbon dioxide production. From what other people have posted about Cockburn and Gore, it doesn't look as though he's weighing things up rationally, though.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:43 AM
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8. He hates Gore
Cockburn and his co-author hate Al Gore:

Al Gore: A User's Manual

The Real Threat is Al Gore


The RW has been feeding off this stuff. Do a search, these pop up on a lot of RW sites.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:09 AM
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12. thanks, ProSense
Edited on Thu May-17-07 05:11 AM by Duppers
Yep, this guy is politically motivated alright. You nailed it.

As I said at the top, who needs reich wing rags when The Nation is publishing this stuff?!

Fuck them.

Sharping my pencil for a letter to Ms. vanden Heuvel right now.




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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:05 AM
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15. I read the Nation but I don't read Cockburn
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:16 AM
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17. Write a letter in. Seriously, how many publications out there
are progressive anymore? If you cancel your subscription, what can you replace it with? There are other valuable writers that contribute to The Nation other than Mr. Cockburn.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:21 AM
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18. I'd write an LTTE not cancel over a foolish article by a
windbag. LTTE's are an important form of feed back, and for one or two atricles that I don't agree w/I'd be hard pressed to figure I'd give up all of the good things...;)
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:33 AM
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19. This is so odd you bring this article up....
I started reading it this morning and couldn't believe what I was reading. I've only been getting The Nation for six months. I'm not as shot with it as I thought I would be; I just keep on reading.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:37 AM
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20. Cockburn is no more "The Nation" than Hitchens used to be.
They're both contrarian in their own way. That has always been part of the Nation's charm.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:48 AM
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25. part of the Nation's CHARM??
I've been an avid reader of the Nation for the last nine months, before that--off & on.

But if the editorial staff is going to keep this twit on after his dismissing the planet's NO. ONE concern along with trashing my hero, Al Gore, then fuck them. I find nothing 'charming' about it.

And btw, I love reading Hitchens' atheistic views, even though I hate his political views. But Cockburn has no redeeming qualities, nor charm.

Sorry.



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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:46 AM
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21. May global warming make his surname become literal. -nt
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:50 AM
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22. LOL - great reply
:rofl:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:24 PM
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24. I quit my subscription because of Christopher Hitchens
Edited on Thu May-17-07 12:24 PM by newspeak
who once wrote for the Nation. I took environmental science in the eighties-yes, global warming is cyclic, but we're hastening the effects. We are doing a lot more damage, than natural causes of global warming--at that time we were measuring the effects of acid rain. :eyes:
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:52 AM
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27. perfect!
I knew there was a joke in that name. Thanks for the perfect reply.

:rofl:



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