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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:48 AM
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Convince me our party has what it takes
to reinstate the constitution and to end the empire project. So far, I've been disappointed and need convincing and propping up to continue my efforts and not give up.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:56 AM
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1. I wish I could, I truly wish I could, but I cant.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:01 AM
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2. Sure.
As you have identified it as "our party," I think we can safely assume you are a member. You have the power to transform this country. Not the entire country, of course, but your neck of the woods. And the same goes for other DUers in their neck of the woods. We are the energy force required to reinstate the Constitution and bring an end to this empire project. No one else will do it for us.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:07 AM
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3. But what power do I have?
Edited on Thu May-17-07 08:08 AM by mmonk
Especially as the press stays silent on the issues of our time? I've written, faxed, called representatives, but they do not take our input as anything of value. They wait for the party position as determined by whomever is now calling the shots. Appeal to all that is supposed to be embodied in the constitutional principles and what was the value systems formerly espoused with pride by our party doesn't seem to dent their current thinking. We voted them into a position of strength if they held together.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:39 AM
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13. A year or so ago,
I posted an essay about a concept know as "locus of control." Briefly, individuals tend to believe that the locus of control in their lives is either largely internal or external. In other words, most people believe one of two things: that they are pretty much in control of dealing with circumstances in their lives, or that they are pretty much the victim of circumstances imposed by outside forces.

It's interesting to note that in the Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, the definition of "locus" includes the example that in a democracy, the locus of power is in the people. By no coincidence, that is exactly what the progressive thinkers among the Founding Father's recognized, and intended the US Constitution -- and especially that Bill of Rights -- to insure.

They knew that in order for our democracy to survive the constant threats it would face (and they knew those threats were going to be primarily internal), that citizens would need to constantly exercise those democratic muscles defined in, for example, Amendment 1.

So when you write to an elected official in Washington, DC; or call the governor's office; or attend a public hearing; or march in a demonstration; or write a letter-to-the-editor, you are doing your part. We should never take the position that those things aren't working. You are responsible for your actions, not those of the elected official. So if you do your best to tell the truth as you understand it (say on the war in Iraq), you have met your responsibility. You can not control what the elected officialdoes with that truth you expressed to him or her.

Our nation will only be transformed when enough individuals at the grass-roots level exercise their internal locus of control, and exercise their Constitutional rights. The elections in '06 were but the first step in the correct direction. That step came by way of the individuals at the grass roots level, not from the goodness of the bureaucrats in Washington. And the next step will come by means of that same democratic force.

I, for one, and mighty glad to be on the same team as you and other DUers. It makes me happy, because it provides us the opportunity to remember what Robert Kennedy said in South Africa, when he urged people not to be discouraged by "the belief there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world's ills -- against misery and ignorance, injustice and violence .... Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.

"It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centres of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."

Those "centres of energy" are the individual's locus of control. RFK was right. He knew exactly what he was talking about on the day he gave that speech.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:49 AM
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16. Thanks. You know what to say to make me feel
I'm not totally banging my head against a wall. I just get tired sometimes and want a rest from my thoughts about my efforts and if they have any effect at all. Plus, anyone that mentions RFK's speeches usually succeeds in getting me to refocus.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:57 AM
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18. I used to box.
I still watch boxing, both on tv and in person. And from time to time, I help train young fighters. One thing that I have learned is that ever the best conditioned fighters take advantage of that one-minute rest period between rounds. And there is a very good reason for that: human beings are able to perform best when they take a break, and get re-energized.

It's important that we all take breaks between rounds in this struggle, too. That's one of the great advantages of being on a team. Sometimes we need to sit down, enjoy the weather, and read about people like RFK. It's not only okay to do, it's necessary.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:08 AM
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4. convince me that if we let the republicans win again, the world will not be destroyed.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:11 AM
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5. Agreed!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:17 AM
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6. Wouldn't it be best to prop me up?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:18 AM
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8. no, not really.
some people expect the democratic party to be a perfect reflection of their values. that is hardly going to happen.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:33 AM
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10. I'm not even asking them to become the "L" word.
I'm asking that they take a HARDER line against the REPUBLICAN abuses of power that have occured. Isn't that pretty much their job? If you don't want to encourage those of us fighting to try and restore things, say so. We'll go about not paying attention to things and just pull levers come voting time and trust things will always be ok.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:18 AM
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7. Our party doesn't. WE do.
We have to make them do it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:19 AM
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9. We do, but do the people who represent us
have what it takes? They are going to have to get mad and stay strong... Can they do that?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:34 AM
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11. I can't
I've seen a pretty good dog-and-pony show, but nothing of substance.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:34 AM
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12. They don't
Sorry to disappoint you.
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:41 AM
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14. They'll win in 08.......but.......
only because of the failures/disapproval of the current administration.
Here in Canada, the conservatives won the last election, not because people agreed with their politics and policies, but because the Liberal party was so unpopular due to scandals.

My point is, the Democratic Party will win, not because most Americans like their politics, but because most Americans are fed up with the Republicans.

Besides Kucinich, I have not been impressed with any of the Democratic front runners.
IMO, their a bunch of careerists who won't act on anything unless its popular.
They could absolutely crusify the current admin. if they were aggressive enough.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:43 AM
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15. "The Party" doesn't have what it takes; that's why we ("The People") need to get active
That's what happened with the labor movement, the civil rights/women's movements, the anti-war movement...

The Democratic Party was not initially on the cutting edge of these movements, but as the movements grew then the Party tapped them and gave them legislative teeth (to various degrees of success)

Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime soon, though. But there are small and encouraging signs...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 08:53 AM
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17. democrat subpoenas are meaningless and useless at the present time. nt
congress can hissy and bluster all it wants but it is a paper tiger until somebody starts enforcing the supoenas and have the sargeant of arms start arresting people.

why should gonzales and bushco cave in when there is nobody gonna make them?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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