"Strengthen the borders" to keep jobs and money IN moreso than people out.

[gulliver]

If we are really concerned about our borders, then we should worry a lot less about a few brown people coming in and worry a lot more about the jobs and wealth going out. The borders are porous in that direction. It's basically all pore, no border.

Isn't security about protecting valuables? So how secure is the border if we just let people walk off with jobs and expatriate their wealth to Bermuda? Crazy things like that are normal somehow. It's not ok for people on the outside to come in, but it's ok for people who are already inside to steal everything they can get their hands on and throw it out the window to their accomplices.

I propose that we create a real, hardball "Strengthen Our Borders" initiative with the goal of preventing just such secondstory work by corporations and the wealthy. The weak-tea, feckless border laws proposed by the Republicans would pale in comparison. Let's do something that actually protects what America owns.

Build the danged fence!

[DonCoquixote]

1. sigh

No fence is going to keep anyone out if they are poor. You want REAL security? Make a means where Immigrants can actually become assimilated into this country, and are expected to do that (kill H1b visas that encourage people to work here, but keep allegiance to their home country.) Also penalize companies for moving labor out of the nation, like every other nation does. Focusing on keeping Brown people out will not stop the REAL threat, the rich pigs who smuggle more wealth out of the country then a billion Mexicans ever could!

[gulliver]

2. That's basically my point.

I'm viewing outsourcing and wealth expatriation as border control issues. It's the complete opposite of the "brown people are the problem" view.

I think legal immigration should be increased. We need people to buy the houses, pay into social security, etc., and we can get the best people. It's better than making them live somewhere else and having our jobs exported there to be with them.

On edit: I changed the title of the OP. It was misleading, "Strengthen the borders to keep jobs and money IN." The whole point is that Republicans are focusing on the brown people when they are letting corporations and the wealthy drive truckloads of money and jobs out of the country.

[GoCubsGo]

5. You have a good point there...

Especially regarding Social Security. And, those truckloads of money that are being driven out of the country aren't going into the pockets of those who take the outsourced jobs. They're going into offshore tax havens. It blows my mind that people are buying into the "Obama/Democrats are Socialists" bullshit, and not recognizing that the corporatists are playing them for suckers in order to perpetuate this sort of thing.

[GoCubsGo]

3. The only thing the fence will keep out is the wildlife

It will screw up the migration patterns of dozens of species, such as the federally endangered ocelot, jaguar, and Mexican wolf, as well as bobcats, javelinas, deer and dozens of species of migratory birds. People, on the other hand, will just find ways over and under it. They're already tunneling under existing fences.

[gulliver]

4. I'm not really talking about the real (dumb GOP) fence.

I'm talking about the fact that their fence keeps out a few brown people while U.S. jobs and wealth fly "out" of the country with nothing to impede them. It frames the outsourcing and wealth expatriation debate as a border security issue...not very successfully from the looks of things.