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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:18 PM
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Ridiculing Jan Brewer = Bad Karma
I realize a lot of people on DU have back office jobs where you never have to give a speech or face the public.

But one day you might, and one day you may blank out and completely forget what you're saying. It can happen to anyone.

Say what you will about her policies, which suck. But don't revel in her misfortune, because next time it might be you.

:beer:

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:19 PM
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1. Is it okay to ridicule Sarah Palin and Joe Miller? n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:20 PM
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2. Don't believe in karma.
So fuck her.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:20 PM
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3. It's the Fight or Flight syndrome
it happens to me A LOT.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:25 PM
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4. She's unfit to be the lead turd in a toilet.
And she's fair game because she chooses to be a lighning rod.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:28 PM
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5. And I LOVE that it happened to her.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:28 PM
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6. You want to be Gov
you better figure out a way to speak in public. Toastmasters or Dale Carnegie would serve Brewer well.
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:28 PM
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7. No, next time it won't be me. Because I would have some measure of my shit together before I ever
agreed to appear in a public forum. It's not that hard.

You either have something written down.

Or you have it memorized.

If you really care about your 'performance'.

And, being the vindictive sort, I'm totally reveling in her unfortunately terrible preparation.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:31 PM
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8. obviously you don't know about Brewer or Arizona
so let me educate you on both and you will be embarrassed by starting this asinine thread.
Jan has been in politics for decades which means she has had to run numerous campaigns which includes public speaking many times. That takes care of that first foolish statement.

Jan Brewer has had these type moments often in her long political career which if you will see includes a top congressional position, secretary of state. She actually up until a couple years ago gave news conferences chewing bubble gum while talking.

As for Arizona maybe I should refer you to the Arizona section here so you can read OUR thoughts and you can apologize to us for this stupid thread.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:36 PM
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11. I take it you don't have a public facing job?
See if you can fit another synonym for "foolish" or "stupid" in one more time. I have great confidence in you.

:toast:
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:11 PM
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23. this thread is the signs of foolishness and stupid
and since I live in Arizona and have done political radio here in Phoenix including covering Brewer your sympathy for her is both foolish and stupid. How's that :applause: oh by the way I have coached football which has public speaking, actually have had quite a number of public speaking jobs so park your foot in your mouth but please don't bite down.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:22 PM
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24. Good work!
I respect the hell out of football coaches. Seriously...no sarcasm.

I'm just saying - good luck with that karma. :toast:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:44 PM
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33. Oh, for fuck's sake
As another poster pointed out, does that mean that we should back off Sarah Palin every time she puts her foot in her mouth? She we respect her and her years of public service, and merely disagree with her policies?

Give me a fucking break...
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:31 PM
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9. The simple fact is, she's not as good at word salad as Lady Blah Blah or Michelle Bachmann
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:34 PM
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10. I do believe in karma and I think Jan Brewer is experiencing it
right now. Her lies came back to kick her in the butt and she deserves whatever she gets. She just proved she's not fit for office.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:44 PM
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12. BUT I'M NOT RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR
And she's NOT someone who came out of a back office to give her first speech--she's been in politics (and public speaking) for DECADES.

And this was her PREPARED opening statement. Her brain freeze--and her reaction to it--were disturbing.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:45 PM
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13. I don't disagree,.
But I still feel bad for people at their most vulnerable times. It's probably a liberal weakness.

:beer:
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:29 PM
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27. I know her prefessionally and I promise you
that she would not feel for you as she ruins your life. She is manipulative and she sees that as a sign to get you. Sometimes you have to realize when you are wasting your sympathy and Brewer is one such case. Take it from those of us who know.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:47 PM
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14. Standing up for Jan Brewer is bad karma.
Get real. You're bending over backwards.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:48 PM
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15. Jan Brewer getting ridiculed = her karma in action.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:49 PM
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17. Exactly - she did this to herself.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:49 PM
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16. right, and she earned it
the bad karma that is :P
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:56 PM
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18. Dude, what part of "opening fucking statement" is that hard
to understand??? She along with her team of aides should have been able to craft something...anything that did not make her look like a total moron. But NO!!!
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:58 PM
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19. Maybe if she didn't make those stupid statements
about the decapitated bodies in the desert, people would give her a pass when she blanked out during her opening statement.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:02 PM
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20. The difference being, I don't need public speaking skills to do my job
Public speaking skills are clearly central to Gov.....governor......heh.......umm........Brewer's job description. However. Also.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:02 PM
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21. the REPLAY of the Wed. debate is starting on C-Span NOW.
Brewer hasn't given her opening statement yet!

tune in quick!

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:09 PM
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22. Wasn't she supposed have been reading from a PREPARED statement?
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 09:34 PM by rocktivity
And what does a "brain freeze" or "senior moment" to do with her flat-out LIES about a balanced budget and headless bodies?

:shrug:
rocktivity
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:26 PM
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25. Teleprompters fail
She choked. This isn't rocket science.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:33 PM
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28. No, it isn't rocket science
to know whether your budget is balanced, apologize for misspeaking about headless bodies, or admit that your teleprompter failed.

:headbang:
rocktivity

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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:44 PM
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34. Nice Try Jack but
you are trying to sell rotten tomatoes as the best buy in town, and we aren't biting. I would suggest you study a little bit about our nit wit governor. Here are some of her best moments: My dad died fighting the nazis. Her dad died in 1955 and when she was confronted with that one she tried to turn it into her dad being patriotic, but the time table she lays out proved she was embellishing. I did cover it on my radio show and showed the impossible story. Then another one I can't recall right now and I challenged her on it, she refused to comment and acted like I never asked. Now the headless bodies thing months ago which finally caught up with her. So she is a con artist and a little advice, don't feel sorry for con artist, that is a fatal mistake sometimes.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:18 PM
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48. Both her and Goddard had note cards.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:16 PM
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46. OR ignoring reporters requests for her to admit she lied about the bodies?
That was no zoned out moment there. And now she will not do any more debates? Just wow. These repubs are horrible.

I don't feel so bad about having chemo-brain now.

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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:28 PM
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26. Oh Bull!
I have given many public speeches and I never did anything like she did. She is an incompetent twit.

Karma? As an atheist I don't believe in karma. Superstition just doesn't go make it with me.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:36 PM
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29. Wait. So the GOP is full of idiots, but we can't point that out?
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:40 PM
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30. Sorry, had to unrec...
...due to the fact I simply think you are wrong, and I do find Brewer's "performance" quite amusing.

And I do "get" the point you are trying to make, but I think it's kind of silly because most people don't usually, willingly get into situations where they are in WAY OVER their head, as is the case with Brewer.

Brewer is not qualified to be the Governor of Anything.

She is unfit for public office of any kind at any level.

She's a political opportunist, a racist/bigot, and a fascist.

The reason she blanked out was because she truly has no valid points to make when it comes to governing.

She's an ideologically-driven know-nothing with political power she doesn't deserve.

If the People of Arizona vote this teabagging freak in as Governor, they will deserve any and all negative consequences of whatever ill-conceived, racist, homophobic, dominionist, fascist/corporatist public policy she delivers for the "People" -- the "People" being, for example, the private prison corporations and their CEOs, not the actual Citizens of AZ.

I'm sorry for any Arizonians (? is that a word?) who oppose Brewer but must live under her reign of idiot tyranny, such as my old pal Bill, who used to be in a punk band in L.A., and had a cool punk label, back in the very early 80s, but now lives and runs a "record store" biz somewhere in AZ.

(google "Toxic Shock Records")
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:42 PM
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31. Your concern is noted.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:43 PM
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32. You're right, it come happen to someone who doesn't know their limitations
I know mine, and I don't run for office.

Perhaps Jan should have run a check on her own prior to running for re-election. One can say what they want about her being thrust into the job. Whole new animal when she agreed to the campaign and is so woefully inadequate.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:48 PM
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35. she has been in politics for decades
she was even the highest ranking person in either the House of Senate, I think the house but could be wrong. She is not close to being new to politics or speaking in public.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:56 PM
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39. Then, I totally miss your point
she is a professional politician. She is beyond woefully inadequate.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:53 PM
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36. Bull - unless your comment is sarcasm
If you're the governor of a state and you're running for re-election, of if you want to be governor, you have to demonstrate your knowledge of the issues, your ability to present your ideas, and your skill at thinking on your feet. Failure to do any of these things well is fine if you're in the back office. It's not so fine if you're the governor of a state.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:54 PM
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37. Should we feel bad for Glen Beck everytime he breaks down and cries in public?
I can't see feeling bad for ANY hateful, racist, homophobic, spiteful hatemongering repuke.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:55 PM
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38. She had no problem spewing her hate and lies....
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 09:57 PM by lib2DaBone
except when she she was required to provide any facts... she freaked out.... WTF
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:59 PM
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40. You go ahead and feel sorry for her because you're afraid of public failure.
Me? I'm enjoying this.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:02 PM
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41. I'm practicing karma by not forwarding the url as I usually do to certain people & friends.- it's
sad - nothing to glory in - but I will say that horrible things come out her head and mouth - they just didn't come - plus - I hope she loses whether or not words come out. I can't go so far as to say mey the best candidate win. No way. There is a limit to practicing good karma.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:06 PM
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42. If only she had joined Toastmasters years ago
None of this would have happened if she had adequately trained and prepared herself. There are no 16 second gaps for Toastmasters.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:17 PM
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47. You can acquire the same skills at NA meetings.
Or so I hear.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:07 PM
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43. I do not ridicule her for freezing at the start of the debate. But I DO ridicule her for dodging
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 10:07 PM by BzaDem
the question about her false statement about headless bodies at least 6 times.
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:09 PM
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44. She deserves every ridicule and more
In fact she deserves a swift kick out the door.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:09 PM
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45. Karma or not, I guarantee you "We have did what was right" would not come out of my mouth.
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 10:18 PM by Bluebear
This is not "blanking out". And it's not just "misfortune".
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Marie Marie Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:56 PM
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49. I guess that Sarah failed to educate her about the wisdom
of having a cheat sheet scribbled in your hand. Come on Republican ladies, you have to stick together and help each other through your incompetence.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:37 PM
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50. What a huge pile of bullshit! I will ridicule her to the ninth level of hell if that's what it takes
I'm so glad you think it's inappropriate to take joy from a racist charlatan's foibles.



Jan Brewer CHOSE a career in the public spotlight which requires her to ANSWER QUESTIONS.

She is CHOOSING to EVADE and IGNORE a relevant and simple question rather than just declaring she was misinformed. Simple, honorable, easy.

But it would contradict her divisive message of hate and bigotry to do the honorable and easy thing.

She's wholly unqualified for her position and should be mocked, ridiculed, derided and shamed until she slithers away in complete embarrassment like the slug excrement she is.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 04:16 PM
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51. Well . . .
:applause:
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