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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:03 PM
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Poll question: If you were President...?
What would you do to get your polls up and keep the House and Senate in Democratic hands after the November elections?
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:06 PM
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1. Prosecute the Banksters who got us into this mess & use their Bonuses & start a massive Jobs Program
just to begin with.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:06 AM
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21. I would have already been prosecuting a hell of a lot of people
Starting with the banksters, and the Bushies!

:grr:
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:10 AM
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22. me2, but better late than never - everyone hates the Banksters now and it should be a no brainer
which only serves to demonstrate who captured our political institutions are today.

:shakes-head:
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 01:00 AM
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26. Plus one executive goes to jail for every $1B of unreturned bailout money.
Nothing changes until white-collar criminals (banksters!) start going to jail.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:09 PM
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2. All of the above...
except for #6 and change the time table on #7 to now!:bounce:
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:46 PM
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10. +1
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:09 PM
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3. None of the above
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 11:09 PM by HughMoran
He's been saying all this stuff all along. Get out there and campaign like only he can - that's what he needs to do. When the chips are down, Obama leads.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:10 PM
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4. Attack something with bombs. It works. Have senate and house leadership behid me when
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 11:11 PM by RB TexLa
talking about it.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:14 PM
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5. Full-bore investigation into Bush/Cheney torture.
Release tons of photos. Have the US Marshals drag all of them kicking and screaming into prime-time Congressional hearings.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:19 PM
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6. If he did that...
His polls would go up 10 points tomorrow.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:23 PM
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7. Yup. The problem is...
...his centrist policies are being sold by the right as full-bore communism, and the right half of the country is buying it. He can do nothing to win them over at this juncture in time, but his attempts only dispirit the base because he's paying more attention to irrational haters than the people that voted for him.

If I wanted Cheney to be on the fucking lecture circuit, I would have voted for McCain!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:26 PM
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8. While I agree with you Kentuck, it should be added that this isn't about Poll Numbers.
This is about saving the country before it is too late.

Allowing War Criminals to go unpunished, and Treason to go unaccounted for is the deeper issue here.

This is about TREASON.

This is about HIGH CRIMES.

This is about LYING THE COUNTRY INTO WAR BASED ON FAKE AND FABRICATED INTELLIGENCE.

This is about JUSTICE.

This is about THE RULE OF LAW.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:46 PM
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11. While I agree wholeheartedly...
I do not believe it is going to happen.

Therefore, we are left with an unpleasant reality. Do we keep what we have and try to improve or do we surrender our country and our lives, our very lives, to the deceitful children of Satan himself, the Republicans?
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:50 PM
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16. Aside from a miracle, that's what is going to happen in November.
As a result, I'd be going full-blast to get the base backing me. That means doing all the above telling Reid to get it together and get those things passed or he'll be replaced in January, and attack everything that even considers themselves a moderate Republican. They want to call us communists? Alrighty then, let's see how they like being called racist, homophobic, murderous, lying, corporate-tit-sucking fascists then. And to hell with taking the high road. They want gutter? Fine. They've given us lots and lots of ammunition to use there.....
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:53 PM
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18. Amen Brother!
Preaching to the Choir.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 01:23 AM
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27. It is true if the Republicans take back Power, the country is finished.
There is no denying that.

We are at a very dangerous, dangerous Crossroads.

What is known is that the road ahead is dark and ugly.

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:29 PM
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9. 8 - here'd be my platform . . .
+ Wars = DONE. Wasteful pieces of Bewsh-shit.

+ Pentasewer = defunded and defanged substantially. Troops - employed to rebuild infrastructure. We're no longer the world's oil cops.

+ Three Words = Universal Motherfucking Health CARE.

+ Three More Words = Mandatory Paid Maternity Leave.

+ Yet Another Three Words = MANDATORY PAID VACATION. It's utter stupidity that the U.S. has no mandated vacation, but we're the world's largest consumer of anti-depressants.

+ Serious work will begin on universal college education also. The debt-for-diploma bullshittery HAS to stop.

+ Cheney/Rove/Rice/Ashcroft = subpoena'd. Cheney gives any of this "who do you think YOU'RE talking to" guff, the ICU's getting pulled on that fuck. Call it severance pay for ruining the country.

+ "Free Trade" agreements = as good as DEAD, or at the very least, repealed until something better and non-zero-sum can be built.

+ Lobbyists, especially war, pharm, tobacco and finance lobbyists = BANISHED.

+ Guaranteed minimum income. Maximum wage.

+ >$500,000/yr = 45% TMTR, $500,000/yr - 250,000/yr = 40% TMTR, 249k - 125k = 36% TMTR. 124k - 85k = 30%TMTR (that's right . .. LOWER). 84k - 50k = 25%. 49k - 25k = 15%. <24k - 10%. Time to institute some progressive taxation for once.

+ 0.05 cent tax on all trade transactions.

+ Tax credits for energy saving.

+ Excess money coming in - New WPA! Infrastructure, bridges, roads, airports, transporation updates, education, schools, alternative energy building, small business funding, etc.

+ Wall Street will no longer hold the White House or the American people hostage. BANK on it. The next to be investigated and watched heavily will be the SEC. Bernie Maddoff and the Collapse-o-rama didn't just HAPPEN.

+ White supremacist groups = investigated.

+ Drugs/prostitution = legalized, regulated, taxed.

+ DOMA & DADT = GONE.

+ Marriage is for ALL consenting adults of legal age.

+ More installation art, Legos, music, retro video game museums, spontaneous acts of kindness, travel, sex and robot labs.

+ I'll of course be paraded around in a bulletproof tank-like HughMobile and refuse to fly, because when you piss off corporations and the wealthy that run them, they tend to get itchy trigger fingers and have plants do a little something-something to certain planes.

:hide:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:48 PM
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12. I would vote for you but what do I know...?
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 11:49 PM by kentuck
I voted for George Fucking McGovern.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:15 AM
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23. you got my vote!
:toast:
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:31 AM
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24. A few wee little changes......
+ Wars = DONE. Wasteful pieces of Bewsh-shit.

Iraq, yes. Afghanistan, no. I want out as badly as anybody else does, but unless we are willing to have every Afghan who has ever worked with us be flown to the US, we can't go just yet. Get out as quickly as possible, though.

+ Pentasewer = defunded and defanged substantially. Troops - employed to rebuild infrastructure. We're no longer the world's oil cops.

Unfortunately, without us to be those oil cops, we'll have a major war in the Middle East within months and oil at $300 a barrel by Thanksgiving. I don't need to explain the consequences for the economy, I hope. I'd be telling them to chop the budget 20% without decreasing strength. The Pentagon's bureaucracy is a mess, go through that. One my one addition to the American Armed forces would be dedicated disaster alert teams, with all the humanitarian equipment needed to handle major disasters. Next time we get a Haitian Earthquake or an Asian Tsunami, USAF C-17s with all the specialists necessary to save lives and alleviate suffering will be there. I was also thinking of traveling units made up of volunteer doctors going around the world, providing free medical care in places less fortunate than us. And kicking 20% from the Pentagon budget is a savings of $110 Billion, even before the cheaper costs from no wars - how many miles of new highway or how many new schools will that build?

+ Three Words = Universal Motherfucking Health CARE.

No argument from me. HR 676 would be passed ASAP, and if the insurance companies don't like it, tough shit. It would also be mandated that all health care providers in the United States be legally required to take the government insurance - each case of denial of care is a 15-month jail sentence.

+ Three More Words = Mandatory Paid Maternity Leave.

Agreed again.

+ Yet Another Three Words = MANDATORY PAID VACATION. It's utter stupidity that the U.S. has no mandated vacation, but we're the world's largest consumer of anti-depressants.

Yep, minimum of 15 days mandatory paid vacation for all workers, private or public, would be my point.

+ Serious work will begin on universal college education also. The debt-for-diploma bullshittery HAS to stop.

Yep, there should be at least a system of state-run universities like in California or New York across the country. Better education makes for better opportunities for people.

+ Cheney/Rove/Rice/Ashcroft = subpoena'd. Cheney gives any of this "who do you think YOU'RE talking to" guff, the ICU's getting pulled on that fuck. Call it severance pay for ruining the country.

They don't answer, they are in contempt, which is a crime. They don't answer those subpoenas, they go to jail, period, end of discussion. As much as seeing Cheney leave this Earth would be satisfying on a number of levels, I won't sink to that level.

+ "Free Trade" agreements = as good as DEAD, or at the very least, repealed until something better and non-zero-sum can be built.

I'd junk those with places like Mexico, yes. With Canada, Western Europe, Australia et al - keep them. With China, everything coming into the country gets a 75% tariff. Enact a law that allows us to replicate a nation's trade laws if we wish to, which will get most of the potentially troublesome countries to shut up.

+ Lobbyists, especially war, pharm, tobacco and finance lobbyists = BANISHED.

Lobbyists shouldn't be there, period. I would set up a federal campaign finance system, and cap donations at $250 to any one campaign from one person or company, and donors must be of legal age to donate, so we don't get some wiseass trying to skirt the rules that way. Lobbyists are subject to the same rules, and no company or firm can donate any more than $500 to a campaign.

+ Guaranteed minimum income. Maximum wage.

Maximum Wage? That's a potential problem for those who do well without screwing someone else over, is it not? I don't know how you'd guarantee a minimum income, and IMO if you were gonna do that, it should be low enough that people don't sit around collecting checks instead of getting a job.

+ >$500,000/yr = 45% TMTR, $500,000/yr - 250,000/yr = 40% TMTR, 249k - 125k = 36% TMTR. 124k - 85k = 30%TMTR (that's right . .. LOWER). 84k - 50k = 25%. 49k - 25k = 15%. <24k - 10%. Time to institute some progressive taxation for once.

45%? I'd set it at 62%, with that number going up to 80% for those in the financial services industry. I'd also have a big going-through of the tax code to remove as many loopholes as possible, and prosecute vigorously tax cheats, focusing on bigger cheats (aka firms using tax havens and the like).

+ 0.05 cent tax on all trade transactions.

Agreed again.

+ Tax credits for energy saving.

Again, can't argue at all.

+ Excess money coming in - New WPA! Infrastructure, bridges, roads, airports, transporation updates, education, schools, alternative energy building, small business funding, etc.

I'd go this route too, though I'd also try to reduce the debt if possible. Again, reducing a debt we leave to our children should be important, if you ask me. As far as the new WPA goes, I'd focus first on transportation and energy. Build a major nuclear waste reprocessing center at Hanford in Washington (already a mess, no need to make a new one) and substantially expand nuclear power in America, as well as renewables. True High-speed rail systems (as in 200+ mph) would be built where appropriate, run by Amtrak and the states as is done in California. I'd also set up a real industrial and research and development policy for the country, and give it a substantial budget to co-ordinate R&D efforts between government and private interests as well as universities and laboratories.

+ Wall Street will no longer hold the White House or the American people hostage. BANK on it. The next to be investigated and watched heavily will be the SEC. Bernie Maddoff and the Collapse-o-rama didn't just HAPPEN.

I'd go further than that, setting up an orderly phase-out of the derivatives market (which is just gambling with other people's money) and make the executives of these companies liable if they screw up. No executive should get away while investors go broke, period. The SEC will have all who have at one time worked for industry removed ASAP, and those who leave the SEC cannot work for a private investment or banking firm for 36 months after leaving the SEC, and the same is true for guys coming to the SEC from private firms. Reinstate Glass-Steagall and forcibly break up the biggest banks into smaller ones, and set up a government-run program to get loans to small banks and business at rock-bottom rates.

+ White supremacist groups = investigated.

Shouldn't even be an idea. I'd add in some so-called religious groups which stoke hate, too.

+ Drugs/prostitution = legalized, regulated, taxed.

Prostitution I would agree with, though I don't think legalizing it would entirely stop the street trade.

As for drugs, marijuana I would agree with legalizing. Nothing else. I have seen what crack cocaine and crystal meth does to people, I do NOT want to see that legalized. I would substantially the change the way it is deal with, however. Possession in small amounts doesn't get you sent to jail or get you a criminal record, it instead gets you entry into a residential treatment program. Second offense does as well. Third offense gets you a couple months in a residential facility, working for the government in menial duties as well as the treatment program. Only the fourth or more offenses gets jail. The first three offenses get no criminal record, either.

Pushers, however, should be treated harshly. I agree on killing the War on Drugs, but stopping smugglers should continue. Those people prey on others, and often do more than just run drugs. Those who smuggle other things should be treated harshly, too, especially human smugglers - the single lowest form of humanity possible.

+ DOMA & DADT = GONE.

+ Marriage is for ALL consenting adults of legal age.

The fact that these problems exist is insulting to those who are gay, and should be tossed pronto. This country was built on separation of church and state. If a church does not want to perform a same sex marriage, they don't have to. But many we will, and we all know it.

+ More installation art, Legos, music, retro video game museums, spontaneous acts of kindness, travel, sex and robot labs.

Not sure what to say about this one, other than the fact that all of them are good for the soul. Well, maybe not the robot labs, but you get the idea. :)

+ I'll of course be paraded around in a bulletproof tank-like HughMobile and refuse to fly, because when you piss off corporations and the wealthy that run them, they tend to get itchy trigger fingers and have plants do a little something-something to certain planes.

I'm not that paranoid. I'd simply fly commercial planes while campaigning, take the train where possible (I am having visions of a Teddy Roosevelt-style whistle stop tour of some parts of America) and do things in a more friendly way. I don't see a need to charter an airliner, honestly.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:48 PM
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13. My answer for the poll was #8
...but I would govern as an FDR Democrat. Poll numbers and elections would follow.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:49 PM
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14. End the drug war, cut the military budget in half.
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 11:50 PM by Warren DeMontague
Immediately begin construction of solar farms on the moon.. okay, maybe in the 2nd term.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:50 PM
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15. I would declare total war on the pusher
I'd cut him if he'd stand and I'd shoot him if he run.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:01 AM
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19. ...And I'd kill him with my Bible, my razor, and my gun...
I'd declare total war.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:51 PM
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17. All but #6.... why double the staff?
...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:02 AM
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20. I believe the President is advsd by a small isolated circle...
I think he needs to hear more opposing viewpoints than just the ones he seems to be getting. Just my opinion.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 12:58 AM
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25. I wonder about that too. Does Obama know what people are really saying on the street?
Anybody he bumps into at a diner or wherever he goes elbow-rubbing probably is too awestruck to have a real conversation with him.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 06:32 AM
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28. If I was President I'd be
If I was President,
I'd get elected on Friday,
Assassinated on Saturday,
Buried on Sunday, then go back to work on Monday.

If I was President, If I was President, If I was President
Instead of spendin' Billions on the war,
I could use that money so I can feed the poor.

Cause I know some so poor, when it rains that's when they shower
Screamin' "Fight the power!" That's when the vulture devours.

If I was President,
I'd get elected on Friday,
Assasinated on Saturday,
Burried on Sunday. Then go back to work on Monday

Wyclef Jean


With the radical and necessary changes needed for the this nation.
I'm sure my edicts and presidential signing orders would get me killed
by the powers that be.
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