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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:00 PM
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Do teachers collect unemployment in the summer?
The reason I ask is becasue I have 2 neighbors who drive a school bus abd collect unemp. THEY told me they like that job becasue they get summers off & they like that.

If the teachers collect as well, does that mean the unemp. #'s will go down significantly for Sept?
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elifino Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:04 PM
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1. I can only speak of Ga. teachers.
My late wife taught for 30 years, they are paid 12 months of the year and can not collect unemployment.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:04 PM
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2. No, we don't.
We are on contracts and do not receive unemployment, nor should we. The "summers off" is a myth, btw. I haven't had a summer "off" in 8 years. Summers are consumed with planning, professional development/classes, working in my classroom when no one else is around to interrupt me, increasing content knowledge, writing or rewriting lessons, etc. Maybe I can find time to read a novel or paint a room in the house or plant a garden.

I will say that during summers I can generally get 8 hours of sleep a night, which is refreshing. I don't have time for that during the school year.
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gater Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:04 PM
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3. None that I have ever heard of...
and both my parents taught, three of four grandparents were teachers too, and bunches of the people I went to school with (basically it was a teachers college) now teach, and they get paid for the year and could/can decide how they want(ed) to be paid over the summer months, in one lump sum, or bi-weekly as per normal.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:05 PM
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4. Not in MA or FL.
Unless the rules have changed. They're paid the same each payday throughout the fiscal year.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:08 PM
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5. In CA teachers are ONLY paid for days actually worked. "vacations" are unpaid days
those months off are NOT paid. teachers can spread their pay over 12 monthly checks if they wish to get a check every month.
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gophates Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:09 PM
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6. I'd be fine with it if you could. If you worked in a public school.
'Course I'd be fine with tripling your salary, too.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:09 PM
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7. Not in PA or OH. There is the option in the contracts to be paid
just during the school year a higher amount per month and no pay in summers, or to be paid 1/12 per month all year, even in summer when they are not in the classrooms. But that is a personal choice and the annual pay is the same either way. So most teachers are being paid in the summer months.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:10 PM
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8. No, they don't
Not that I know of. And teachers don't get summers "off," unless you count 3 months without pay as being off.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:15 PM
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11. A three-month vaction is a thing of the past.
We are off from mid-June to mid-August. Summers are used to take mandatory continuing education credits, to write curriculum, attend technology training, etc. Many teachers teach summer school also.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:24 PM
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17. oh, yes of course
my mother has been a music teacher for 25 years... she doesn't even get breaks DURING the school year, let alone during the summer ("special" teachers are viewed by many there as little more than a chance for "real" teachers to take a smoke break). All of Mom's CE has been during the school year, though
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:12 PM
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9. They don't...
and they don't have SS Retirement either! (at least here in CT.)
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:20 PM
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13. Or in CA. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:13 PM
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10. No. In FL the salary for teachers is spread over 12 months.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:15 PM
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12. Well, if the teachers don't, I wonder if there are enough
bus drivers, cafeteria workers, etc. to a/t least bring the unemp. rate dow A LITTLE?

That was really the point I was trying to make. I don't care if teachers would have collected. I'm more concerned about the unemp rate & how a nice downward blip coupd help tamp down the pesssimisim of the MSM.
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:22 PM
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16. That's why unemployment rates are "seasonally adjusted". nt.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:25 PM
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18. you're also going to see a drop with seasonal work
retail/shipping around Christmas, that sort of thing.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:21 PM
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14. I taught and retired in CT.
We worked 187 days and were paid for 187 days ( this does not count the days we are in school getting our required Master's and Continuing Ed.Credits to keep our certification.) In the town where I taught, we could be paid every two weeks during the school year, or stretch our salary over 26 weeks by being paid less each payday. We were not given the opportunity to pay into SS, only pay into our pension. There are 15 states where teachers cannot pay into SS. BTW, for those who don't get SS checks, Medicare is $110.50 instead of $96.40 each month.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:52 PM
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25. For years, my neighbor (a schoolteacher) has "moonlighted" as a real estate agent
to earn enough money to save for his kids' college tuition. That means he pretty much works all the time, esp. weekends...
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:21 PM
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15. No. I think in some districts you can decide whether to have your pay spread out during the school
year and not get paid during the summer, or pro-rate it so you get paychecks throughout the year. Also, while teachers are not teaching during the summer, they're also not sitting around on a three-month vacation doing nothing, either.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:25 PM
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19. No
in Wisconsin...they have contracts that state terms of service, therefore it is not a lay-off nor a firing, which are the basis for unemployment..
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:26 PM
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20. Not in most states. nt
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:30 PM
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21. Not in Virginia!
We get paid by having our salaries divided into 12 paychecks. And as someone mentioned above, summers are not "off-time"! It is spent doing all the things the teacher mentioned above.
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:37 PM
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22. My sister is a PE teacher for a private school.
She does get the summer off, but gets a paycheck regularly throughout the summer because they spread their annual salary out over 12 months. She also does not work during the summer, but does have to be at her job a couple of weeks before the start of the school year. During the summer, however, she may get called to the school for a special meeting. So, because she gets a regular paycheck during the summer, she can't collect unemployment.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:47 PM
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23. Absolutely NOT in Michigan. n/t
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:51 PM
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24. If you are tenured and under contract, you are not eligible. If you have been rehired for the next
school year, you are not eligible. However, if you are surplused with no visible job for the next term, you are eligible. Remember, the school has to certify the individuals employment status when they apply. However, those who want to commit fraud will find a way around all of this.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 03:52 PM
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26. When I was a teacher...
... my check was prorated to cover the time I was off. It sucked having 1/4 of your check held back during a pay period. But, it was nice having a regular check all year.
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