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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 05:57 PM
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Poll question: Where are you in the grieving sequence
The democracy envisioned and initiated by Jefferson, Adams, and the rest, the one I grew up in, is dead. Where are you in the grieving process?

1. DENIAL - "Hate Radio and Fox 'News' do not run the country. 2008 shows that we still live in a democracy."

2. PAIN & GRIEF - "Maybe I should have done more than post rants on DU"

3. ANGER & BARGAINING- "Shit. If we can somehow restore honest elections, fair media, and a functioning justice system back, I will never curse unions again"

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS- "This really sucks. I don't know whether to move abroad, drive over a cliff, or sideswipe that car with the Beck bumper sticker. I hate going to the grocery store because it's crawling with mouthy Limbeciles"

5. THE UPWARD TURN- "Well, I did my best, and things could be a lot worse. I can live without honest elections and government services. I have 100 channels, baseball, and DU"

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH- "I kept my job, have a roof over my head and my garden and can afford health care. it's still better than living in Haiti"

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE- "I spend most of my day listening to hate radio and watching cable 'News', and a lot of what they say makes sense. This country was founded by white men. I think unions are all corrupt. Obama wants my guns, but won't show his birth certificate. Teabaggers will get this country back on track. Also, people have lived happily in Kingdoms all through history. Hail King Glen!"

http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 06:01 PM
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1. That has an assumption that the item in question is actual.
For instance, some might say my situation is 'the way it is' I say it is not.

So I do not go through the steps of 'grieving' accept for those that will pay for the actions of such wrong done to me.

They will pay with spine, bone, and marrow, since they have refused to pay by better contribution to a just cause.

That is not Denial, pain, grief, and definitely not bargaining.

It is the simple truth that they will pay. Without anger, without doubt, and without taking pleasure in their situation.

Just a simple fact, things will be corrected, even if such correction is the removal of all that owe and will not correct.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 06:09 PM
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2. You're more optimistic than I
No one is going to pay for destroying the nation. Retribution would have started by now if it were going to happen.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 06:10 PM
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3. I heard the sonic booms.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:20 PM
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4. A kind of sadness actually.
Edited on Sat Sep-04-10 07:58 PM by Iterate
So I suppose that means none of the above.

I'll not give up my views: that science works, that the Enlightenment was a good idea, that people can govern themselves, and that there are viable economic systems beyond predatory capitalism. And the other things that make life worthwhile, community, family, art and music, learning -you know, cheap, sustainable, and non-polluting. Oh yes, and food, good food. Plenty of wine, I like wine.

No denial, because I'm pretty well convinced that it's all going to turn pear-shaped within thirty or forty years. None of those other things either, because I'd don't live in the consumer moment.

The sadness though comes from seeing history, like realizing that Americans have never come to terms with 620,000 dead just two lifetimes ago. Six-hundred and twenty thousand. That's just astonishing when you think about it. No one now even mentions it unless it's in demented celebration. And the longer it festers the more we take it wherever we go. It's "Platoon" on every corner.

And the sadness comes from the thought that just 50 million Americans and perhaps 50 million people living elsewhere, all mentally stuck somewhere between 1929 and the Dark Ages, could set the other 6 billion of us onto a path of hell on earth, just out of the power of their own greed, their own primitive and apocalyptic vision.

And hope, well a few bad centuries down the line, maybe. It's tough to recover a democracy, such as it was. The First Indian War of Independence in 1857 comes to mind. Bloody affair that was.

But, I'll vote, straight-ticket, and I'll campaign as best I can. You never know.

ed. typo
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:22 PM
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5. I went through the bad stuff during the Bush regime.
I'm pretty much at resignation and a kind of acceptance. I feel this country is going fascist and there's nothing I can do about it, but my focus just has to be my own life and family and our getting through as best we can.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 03:54 PM
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6. You're the only one who's admitted to acceptance
Though, judging from the number of DUers who post right-wing talking points every day, I think you're not the only one who's assimilating to life in Beck's kingdom. I am trying to ex-patriate and if that fails will join you in keeping my head down while the country turns into Rwanda.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 05:14 PM
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7. None of these seem to fit my state of mind.
I don't know if that's good or bad. :)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 05:17 PM
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8.  Depression, Reflection, Loneliness
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 05:18 PM
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9. I'm into buying local
supporting local business, growing my own- canning, preserving, becoming more
self sufficient. Working to still educate people when I can on the fascism that
pretends to be democracy. Trying to live buddhist principles. Ain't easy.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 06:11 PM
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10. I'm in the unreccing phase
Crap! Too late for this thread.

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