NY Magazine: Judi Giuliani's Run for First Lady

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http://nymag.com/news/features/31812/

This is a lengthy profile of Rudy's latest wife, by Lloyd Grove, one which has apparantly angered the Saint of 9-11 himself. (I caught the tail-end of a Rudy campaign rep on MSNBC saying something like (not verbatim) "He feels that his wife is a civilian and not fair game for attack".)




Rudy Giuliani has always been the most insular of politicians, operating within his personal tribe, at odds with most everyone outside. The prime value is extreme loyalty, and for those in possession of that quality (think Bernard Kerik), much else is forgiven. Like George W. Bush, he and his team create their own reality and wait for the world to follow.

Judith Giuliani is the latest to join this coterie, and by far the most important. He’s given her influence into all facets of his professional life. He has often referred to Judith as his “closest adviser.” In a 2003 TV interview, Rudy claimed that Judith is “an expert we rely on” at Giuliani Partners. “She gives us a lot of advice and a lot of help in areas where she’s got a lot of expertise—biological and chemical,” Rudy said as Judith watched him and nodded vigorously. “And since we do security work, that’s an area of great concern—you know, another anthrax attack, a smallpox attack, chemical agents. She knows all of that.” Famously, he told Barbara Walters that Judith would be able to sit in on cabinet meetings, acting at the time as if this were a perfectly ordinary responsibility for a president to give his wife.

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The story of Manny Papir is a cautionary tale for anyone who doubts that Judith Giuliani is a force to be reckoned with. Papir, Rudy’s longtime personal aide, learned the hard way during a trip to Europe when Rudy, taking a 9/11 victory lap in early 2002, was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II and then was honored with the German Media Prize in Baden-Baden. Among Rudy’s inner circle, Judith was fast becoming known for her demanding requirements. Even loyalist Sunny Mindel was overheard joking that whenever they arranged a chartered jet for their principal and his companion, “we need two seats for Judith—one for her and one for her Gucci bag.” (“I have no recollection of saying that,” Mindel says.)

When Judith asked to stay two nights in Baden-Baden instead of the previously planned one—throwing the intricate schedule into disarray—Papir, who was advancing Rudy’s triumphal tour, made the mistake of betraying his impatience. Running into other members of the entourage in the lobby, he muttered, “Let me guess—you’re waiting for Princess, too.” When the quip was reported back to Rudy and Judith, Papir—who declined to comment—was out of a $200,000-a-year job.

[Catherine Vincent]

1. That's a nice photo. n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

2. I think she wants it more than Rudy does and he REALLY wants it.

Lady MacBeth in modernity.

[nam78_two]

3. Yuck

Rudy Giuliani has always been the most insular of politicians, operating within his personal tribe, at odds with most everyone outside. The prime value is extreme loyalty, and for those in possession of that quality (think Bernard Kerik), much else is forgiven. Like George W. Bush, he and his team create their own reality and wait for the world to follow.


Just the guy for the presidency...Another guy who promotes "loyalty" over competence/integrity and surrounds himself with sycophants.
We seem to like to elect self-styled monarchs :puke:.

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4. precisely... he IS B*sh with more IQ points and a smattering

of liberal social policies (pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay rights) and a likely GOP nominee, truly something to fear.

[shain from kane]

5. A grinning skull, among the dead. An extreme opportunist who cashed in on the dead.

Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know
not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?
Now get you to my lady's chamber, and tell her, let
her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must
come; make her laugh at that.

[RB TexLa]

6. since when do we vote for or give a shit about who the president is married too

:shrug:

[Totally Committed]

7. Hillary Clinton was married to Bill Clinton...

To hear some talk, it's all that matters.

Just saying.

TC

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9. whatever ammo it takes to turn off enough conservative voters

and RW-nuts in the Primaries to stop his nomination... I don't give a RAT'S ASS how dirty and low the road is to take. If it's the hypocrisy of Rudy leading the party of the Moral Majority, Family Values crowd, finger-waggers which highlighting his "immoral" conduct illustrates, I can sleep very well doing that. Where the hell has taking the high road gotten our party? You don't think the GOP slime machine will rip Michelle Obama a new one, or Tipper Gore, or whomever the wife/husband of the Dem nominee turns out to be? Wake up from your lovely dream!

Giuliani would be a DANGEROUS, dangerous president-- he is every bit the fascist and divider that B*sh is, but he has a brain nd won't need cue cards when he speaks. Don't even think about Giuliani repairing the tattered US reputation around the world, he is incapable of that. You're with him or against him. As a former NYer, I've lived through it. So, WHATEVER TT TAKES to stop him-- if its legal, that's fine. If it's suppressing conservatives from turning out for him based on his dopey wife and betrayal of his 2nd wife, so be it. In this case the end justifies the means- for ME.

I do respect your opinion, and understand you have plenty of company.

[dogday]

8. He better get out now then, cause everything is going

to be fair game when it comes down to it... Better get him one of these suits immediately, and his wife too.....

[shain from kane]

10. "...she’s got a lot of expertise—biological and chemical." Lucky choice for him, since they were

screwing around before 9/11. Serendipity.