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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:48 PM Original message |
UAW President Bob King, AFT President Randi Weingarten |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. both colluding in taking down their membership. go to factory rats & read the comments about kind. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. So you throw top labor leaders under the bus if they don't hate Obama as much as you. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. A...plant? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Deleted message |
Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Do you know Randi Weingarten's history? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Wow, your comments show a steadfast refusal to give credit where it's due |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. wow, your comments show a steadfast dedication to excusing anything: that's troubling. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. When the president of a labor union gives credit to the President |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. if the president is currently trying to force his membership into a vote a majority of them |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. ... |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. "both colluding in taking down their membership" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. whatever you say, tiger. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks for the reality check. |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Which begs the question: Why did Rahm say \\\"fuck the UAW\\\"? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I suggest you look at the source of that quotation. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Why, Janx, I think you're correct on that. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Securities fraud? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Rattner is married to Maureen White, the former National Finance Chair for the Democratic Party. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Thank you, Hannah. That's a start. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Thank you for the reality check! |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Insert fingers in ears and say la la la I can't hear you.... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Even if he did, so what? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. king: |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. My, those are impeccable sources... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Deleted message |
janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I'm a skeptic about media too, so I'm trying to understand |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. gee, too bad. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Thank you for editing it! n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. useless to explain the details to you as you're not interested. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It's not that I'm not interested. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. maybe you better check the washington post's conflicts of interest, then. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. editing -- what? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. The post that I had a tough time understanding. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. i added the shotwell quote. not sure why that makes the post easier to understand. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Well, now I know that he's a union member posting on a message |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. he's a union leader & activist, actually. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. And Good For Him. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. and fewer like bob king & randi weingarten. but it seems rank & file activists never get to play |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. At least he is getting heard though, Hannah. n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. shotwell? not in the news. not quoted on tv. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. So maybe he should write a political gossip book and include salacious |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. no, he wouldn't. only bigshot democrats get attention when they tattle on other bigshot dems. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. delete--posted in the wrong place |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. A little like Rattner tattling on Rahm Emanuel? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. my point exactly. and he said it -- that's not in doubt. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. It's not? In what context did he say it? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. I'm not apologizing. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. you need to look up the definition of "apologetics". |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I'm well aware of it. n/t |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Not sure where you got that ... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. new hires *already* earn $15/hr. the renegotiation is for older workers to take a 50% cut. |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Rattner's claim has not been disputed |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. And this is important why? |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. It was important to the person who told me to consider the source |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. You are assuming that he did. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Maybe because he was frustrated? You know humans get frustrated at times |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. I don't swear much... |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. There are many possible reasons |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
74. Who cares! That's Rahm. That's who he is. That's what he does. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
16. K & R |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. It appears that in taking a responsible stance, the UAW and the AFT leaders |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Frenchie, look at this video, starting at about 3:00. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I'm just surprised that he's getting a fair interview on CNBC! |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. That surprised me too, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. you seem to mistake bob king for the uaw. he's not, you know. uaw is its |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. He is the president of UAW, isn't he? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. the same way weingarten got it. behind the scenes maneuvering & a membership out of the loop. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. yeah, that's why new uaw workers get $15/hr now & gm is opening non-union plants |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
51. Well, looky here, looky here. Kicked and rec'd |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Thank you! n/t |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
67. Thanks. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. This is so true..thank you, |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. To you too, Cha-- |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
75. Good story. I counteracts the other stuff I've been reading. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
76. Good stuff, thanks! |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
77. K&R! |
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