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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 02:58 PM
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The Republicans Tax Bombshell
Edited on Mon Sep-06-10 03:30 PM by TheBigotBasher
The Paul Ryan budget is still talked about approvingly by Republican candidates but just six months after the plans were published they still will not talk about what it means. Now two mnths before an election there is little hope of Republicans discussing their tax plan. If you are not a rich American you will face a Republican Tax Bombshell.

People need to be reminded exactly what the Republican proposals mean to them individually.
Mother Jones did an article about it in March. The figures are terrifying for anyone earning less than $100,000 per year.

For those earning more they get the tax cuts that the Tea Partiers demanded.

Rep. Paul Ryan's tax and spending "roadmap" is a fascinating critter: conservatives all praise it to the skies but none of them want to actually commit to supporting it. The reason for their hesitation is obvious: Ryan's plan would cut spending dramatically, and supporting it would mean having to explain what, exactly, they'd cut. That would be electoral suicide and they know it. They much prefer their usual game of loudly denouncing "spending" without ever having to say what spending they're actually opposed to.

However, their reason for supporting Ryan's plan is also obvious: it would cut taxes on the rich dramatically, and there's nothing conservatives like better than cutting the tax bills of America's wealthy. But how much would it cut taxes on the rich? Citizens for Tax Justice has run the numbers and the answer is: a lot. The very richest of the rich would see their tax bills go down by an average of over $200,000, a whopping 15% of the income. Ka-ching! To make up for that, everyone with an income under $100,000 would have their taxes increased by about $2,000 per year




Do you think the "Taxed Enough Already" teabaggers know this? Do you think that the poorest of them marching with their little placards against big bad Government would be happy to know about Republican proposals? How great is it to be part of a community demanding tax cuts for their boss at their own personal expense?

This from a Party that claims to be concerned about the deficit, yet they are prepared to cut $180 billion from tax revenues, while they target the very poorest of Americans for tax hikes.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 03:42 PM
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1. What a horrific graphic!
How in hades can he be serious with this??
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 04:04 PM
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2. No reporters question them on it?
Republicans quite literally get away with murder.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 04:10 PM
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3. Maybe try emailing it out to a select few?
Thinking Big Ed, Rachel, Krugman, maybe Dylan Radigan - people would would follow up on it.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 04:16 PM
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4. It's a tax hike on the bottom 90% of America
to pay for tax cuts for the top 1%. The other 9% get very little. People need to kick up a stink about it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 04:20 PM
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5. Oh, you libruls and your class warfare
Let's just try this for, oh 10 or 20 years, and see how it pans out. And if it's as bad as you make it sound, we'll give it just another 10 or 20 years.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:15 PM
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6. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities wasn't too pleased w/Ryan's "plan" either --
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3114">The Ryan Budget's Radical Priorities
Provides Largest Tax Cuts in History for Wealthy, Raises Middle Class Taxes, Ends Guaranteed Medicare, Privatizes Social Security, Erodes Health Care

-- and their opening response to Ryan's attempt to discredit their analysis as "partisan demagogery" --

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3119">Ryan’s Response to Center’s Analysis of “Roadmap” Is Off Base
We are quite disappointed that, in responding to our analysis of his budget plan, Rep. Paul Ryan accuses the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities of “partisan demagoguery” as well as “factual errors and misleading statements.” Quite the contrary, we applied the same rigorous analytical process to Rep. Ryan’s Roadmap for America’s Future that we do to every issue we study. We worked for more than a month on our analysis, and we believe that, if anything, we bent over backwards to make sure we were fair to the Congressman and his plan. Frankly, based on the attack on our analysis that Rep. Ryan issued, we took his plan far more seriously than he took our analysis of it.

Rep. Ryan accuses us of partisanship, but we relied on the best nonpartisan sources available. The Tax Policy Center, on whose revenue estimates we relied heavily, is a highly respected, nonpartisan institution whose codirector, Rosanne Altshuler, was senior economist for President George W. Bush’s Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform in 2005. Our other key sources of information included the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and the Chief Actuary of the Social Security Administration. Rep. Ryan says that we made errors and misleading statements, but it is he — not we — who has done so. He ignores what we wrote and accuses us of writing things that we did not. In fact, he even selectively deletes words from a sentence that he quotes from one of our earlier reports to change the clear meaning of what we wrote. He also inaccurately represents some important aspects of CBO’s analysis of his plan....









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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 06:46 AM
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17. So much for being able to afford that new front tooth, spelling lessons, and my new tattoo ! ! !
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:27 PM
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7. And yet the Repubs. are likely to win at least the House in the midterm
elections! Tens of millions of people, who dobn't know any better, will be voting
Republican! What does that say about the general knowledge of our people?!
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:47 PM
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8. Is that a narrative or a reality?
Two months is a very long election season.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:55 PM
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9. DAAAYYYUUUMM....
VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

Too much at stake, re-districting, taxes, government shutdown, and much more.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 06:55 PM
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10. Kick and rec. Important news we all need to see
Thanks for posting.

And it's a given that the tea partying idiots and their supporters are completely unaware of how really, REALLY bad the Repub party wants to screw them over.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 04:59 AM
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15. Of course, when the Republicans increase taxes
on them they will just blame President Obama.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 07:14 PM
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11. OMG PLEASE REC THIS! READ AND WEEP! You may be paying another 2 grand in taxes nt
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 07:31 PM
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12. Kick!
GOP, always looking out for themselves.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:06 PM
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13. kick
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:28 AM
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14. Yes! Higher taxes for the middle class and eliminate social security.
While keeping low taxes for the super rich and allowing an infinite amount of money to kill foreigners with!

That's the America I want! Bring it on!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 05:00 AM
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16. The k
and the r.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 07:14 AM
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18. I'm in the second 20%. Fuck. I'm speechless.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 07:14 AM
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19. k + r n/t
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:53 AM
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20. Wish I could print that graphic on 3X5 cards and carpet-bomb the next Tea Party rally..
Maybe some brave soul will ask Glenn BecKKK and Sarah Failin about it at their 9/11 'patriot' mob gathering.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:34 PM
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23. Why not? Except use two sides.
One one side say "Some politicians just love to raise taxes. Here's one political party's plan"

chart


and then on the other side. "That political party? - Republicans" "Analysis of the Republican Paul Ryan's "Roadmap""
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:48 PM
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25. Use pretty colors and funny pictures to keep their attention!
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:44 AM
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21. one item on the GOP agenda
That is one item. Next is spending cuts, especially, health care, SS and medicare.
Other items:
Investigate the Obama admininstration, with possible impeachment to follow.
Repeal the financial reform bill
Repeal health care reform.

Of course, absolutely nothing will be done about the recession.

At the best, we will have 'gridlock on steroids'.


Most people do not bother to be informed on the issues, know anything at all about governement < how many can name their Senators or Representative?>, and do not trouble themselves to vote. Only a nerd does anything weird like any of that.
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:07 PM
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22. Teaklanners support this,
There is a very good reason that the tea klanners support this tax idea.
Most of them are either ignorant, uneducated hicks or
they have a sever mental or learning disability.

Stupid is, as the tea klanner does.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:09 PM
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24. Holy crap! 90% of Americans would pay MORE in taxes
and overall tax revenue would DECREASE by $2 trillion over the next 10 years. Now that's a tax plan only a billionaire or a moron (AKA tea bagger) could love!

http://ctj.org/pdf/ryanplan2010.pdf
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:43 PM
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26. Kick. Too late to rec. nt
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:36 AM
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27. medicare vouchers
get this $5900 for a person at 65 in today's dollars. no chance that would cover your premium.
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