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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:30 PM
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Oh, wonderful. Even World Nut Daily is promoting Obama's opposition to marriage equality
via Americablog: Today, WND prints an "Open letter to Conservatives who support same-sex marriage" from David Kupelian. Here's how it starts -- with one of the favorite talking points from marriage opponents:

"I do not support gay marriage. Marriage has religious and social connotations, and I consider marriage to be between a man and a woman." – Barack Obama

"Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage always has been, between a man and a woman." – Hillary Clinton

To my conservative friends and colleagues,

Just two years ago, supporting homosexual marriage was such an extreme, politically radioactive position that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton – both Alinskyite progressives and long-time gay-rights supporters – saw fit to publicly and repeatedly declare their opposition to same-sex marriage.

Today, as the homosexual newspaper the Washington Blade puts it, "conservatives have taken the leadership role in achieving marriage equality."

Yes, they have. Now, even WND is using Obama to challenge the conservatives who are more progressive on marriage than the Prsident.

http://gay.americablog.com/2010/09/even-world-nut-daily-is-promoting.html
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:55 PM
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1. if the shoe fits.... nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 09:57 PM
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2. I feel like Alice
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 10:57 PM
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3. Carly Fiorina reminded folks
that she was on board with Obama's views during her debate with Boxer.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 06:30 AM
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4. Tearing down the Democratic President is not likely to achieve
marriage equality. Getting more Democrats elected to Congress will.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 06:45 AM
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5. telling the truth isn't tearing down
No part of what is in Bluebear's OP isn't true. No part of it calls Obama a name that we would actually consider an insult. His position is what it is. It is being used, as it is being used. Those facts are his fault, not ours, and pointing it out isn't tearing him down.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:00 AM
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6. Repeating the same talking point over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over again is tearing down.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:36 PM
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7. maybe if every time we turned around we didn't hear
why should we support marriage when even Obama doesn't, we wouldn't.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:44 PM
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8. I don't understand why you refuse to hold Obama responsible for his words...
It is Obama's words that are causing this particular contretemps, if he would just change his mind that would completely defuse this particular right wing talking point.

Do you think Obama is incapable of changing his mind?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:38 PM
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10. only if you think it's a negative
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 03:43 PM by mitchtv
and that's easily remedied. He could have helped everyone, him and us with a congratulatory message when we had the latest Prop8 victory, instead he had to have and advisor reiterate his disagreement with equal marriage (slinking away mumbling).
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:46 PM
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15. We wouldn't be good enough for you
if we sucked the President's cock, so give it a rest.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:43 PM
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18. Plus a million. O.M.G.
:hug:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:44 PM
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19. !!!
:loveya:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:09 AM
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20. Oh snap!!!
:rofl:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:42 PM
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17. Don't fucking tell our community what to do. Everything we've ever earned we've earned
through our own sweat, our own organizing, our own money, our own ideas. 20 years with Democrats supporting us about on par with Republicans and not an inch more.

Getting anti-gay Democrats elected won't do shit for us. Pressuring them to take a stand is far more effective. Shaming them by pointing out the fact that even conservative lawyers have been more helpful than they have isn't a bad pressure point either.

Obama's marriage equality position is disgusting and disgraceful. And anyone who apologizes for him on this issue is equally disgraceful.

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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 02:50 PM
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9. I gave this OP a rec that you will likely never see.
President Obama's opposition to marriage equality is an inconvenient truth that many progressives would rather not be mentioned at all.

But when his words are being used in a way that attacks our families, as is the case with WND above, then our President needs to be held publicly accountable for his words and for providing these right-wing nutjobs with such ammunition to harm us.

He could easily neutralize all of this by doing the right thing, but unfortunately it does not appear politically expedient to do so. Therefore, he won't.

How do you like THAT fierce advocacy?

K&R
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:42 PM
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11. Rec #2
:hug:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:43 PM
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12. K&R. Why are we providing ammo for the RW?
It's time to take a progressive stand on DOMA and DADT, Mr. President.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:44 PM
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13. Well, everyone knows. When WND takes your side...
you are on the right side of history! :crazy::sarcasm:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 03:44 PM
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14. K&R
.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:19 PM
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16. More K
Already did the r
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