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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:41 AM
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OK I get this email from one of Arpaio's nuts. He thinks Arpaio can arrest Obama
THE KENYAN USURPER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA's REAL NAME IS BARRY SOETORO, WHO USED STOLEN CONNECTICUT SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER 042-68-4425 TO FRAUDULENTLY AND FELONIOUSLY REGISTER FOR THE SELECTIVE SERVICE IN 2008 AS HE ILLEGALLY OBTAINED REGISTRATION NUMBER 61-1125539-1. YOU CAN'T AND WON'T REFUTE THIS EVIDENCE.

New evidence undermines feds' case against Arizona
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/New-evidence-undermines-feds_-case-against-Arizona-705578-102106209.html

You've heard a lot about the Justice Department's lawsuit to stop the new Arizona immigration law. But that's just one part of the Obama administration's multi-front war on immigration enforcement in Arizona.

In addition to the drive to kill the new law, Attorney General Eric Holder is also suing the Maricopa Community College system in Phoenix, alleging it broke the law by requiring a job seeker to provide a green card before being hired. And on Thursday the Justice Department filed suit against the Maricopa County Sheriff's office, run by the flamboyant Joe Arpaio, as part of an extended investigation into alleged civil rights violations there.

Despite the splash of attention from the newest lawsuit, the Justice Department's investigation of Arpaio could end badly for Holder. When the Department first informed Arpaio that a probe was under way, back in March 2009, it sent a letter saying the investigation would focus on "alleged patterns or practices of discriminatory police practices and unconstitutional searches and seizures." But now we learn that just six months before that, in September 2008, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, known as ICE, did its own investigation of Arpaio's office -- and gave it a clean bill of health. Arpaio's lawyers recently got a copy of the ICE report through the Freedom of Information Act.

ICE officials evaluated how the sheriff's office performed under a law that allows specially trained local law enforcement officers to enforce parts of federal immigration law. The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office, which is the largest sheriff's office in the Arizona, has 189 officers who have been trained by ICE to enforce federal immigration statutes.

The report, crammed with acronyms and bureaucratese, is not light reading. But struggle through it, and the key sentence is this: "The OI and DRO supervisors consider the conduct and performance of the MCSO ... officers to be professional and meeting the requirement of the MOA." Translated, that means officials from the Homeland Security Department's Office of Investigation (OI), along with officials from the Detention and Removal Operations office (DRO), concluded that the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO), in its handling of illegal immigrants, acted in a professional manner and complied with a memorandum of agreement (MOA) under which the government gave them the authority to enforce federal law. That agreement included a ban on racial profiling.

ICE investigators also interviewed top federal officials involved in illegal immigrant cases in Arizona. They found an "excellent" working relationship between the sheriff's office and the feds. ICE talked as well to federal prosecutors in Phoenix, who described the cases brought by Maricopa County as "high quality."
In all, it's a quite positive assessment of an operation that just six months later would come under the Justice Department's microscope for alleged civil rights violations. It also lends indirect support to Arpaio's contention that the Justice Department investigation is politically motivated.

A tidbit of information contained in other government documents released under the Freedom of Information Act also suggests politics may be involved. Arpaio's lawyers found a March 11, 2009, e-mail, sent just after the Justice Department investigation was announced, from an ICE employee to John P. Torres, then the acting assistant secretary of ICE. "Did you see this?" the e-mail said, attaching a news report on the investigation. "Yes," Torres responded a few minutes later. "Interesting politics at play."
What happens now? It's been nearly a year and a half since the investigation began, and the Justice Department has not charged the sheriff's office with violating anyone's civil rights. Instead, Thursday's lawsuit goes after Arpaio for allegedly failing to cooperate fully in the probe.

"It's a totally political lawsuit," says Bob Driscoll, a former Bush Justice Department Civil Rights Division official who is representing Arpaio. "They want to find evidence of discrimination, but all they're finding is evidence of law enforcement that includes immigration enforcement." (The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment.)
Failing to find proof of real discrimination in Maricopa County could ultimately doom the administration's entire crusade in Arizona. The much-publicized suit against the new immigration law is based on the possibility that it might result in future discrimination, but at the same time the department is struggling to find evidence of civil rights violations in Arpaio's office, which uses enforcement techniques similar to those outlined in the new law. There's a real chance that in the end Obama's war on Arizona will come to nothing.

Byron York, The Examiner's chief political correspondent, can be contacted at byork@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears on Tuesday and Friday, and his stories and blogposts

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I usually don't read his emails but this one caught my eye and considering someone posted the formation of a defense of Arpaio I thought posting this might help you see why Arpaio is dangerous and warrants watching.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:45 AM
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1. Oh, Please Please Please let him try!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:50 AM
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3. yeah he is a nut but also a pain in the ass
I unfortunately got to correspond with him and talk to him on air. We had this guy on our network that got in a battle with him on air and it turned up causing us to get his emails which some are so far out in looney land you just delete. I have sent him an email asking him not to send his trash but he ignores the request. I even asked Arpaio to use his status with this freak to get it to stop but Arpaio refused. Thanks Robert McDonald, one day maybe I can repay you for bring this freak into my world.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:55 AM
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4. Yeah, that was my thought!
I'd love to see him in a tangle with the Secret Service!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:40 AM
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15. That would warm the cockles of this Maricopa County resident's heart
like nothing else I can imagine! :rofl:
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:49 AM
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2. This whole "stolen social security number" thing always kills me.
Where, exactly, did they get this so-called evidence regarding stolen social security numbers?
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 10:59 AM
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5. One thing Birfers don't get: when YOU make the outrageous accusations, YOU must present evidence.
It's not up to Obama or his supporters to refute it.

You think this all is true, Birther? Fine, asshole, prove it. If you can't, kindly have a big steaming mug of Shutthefuckup.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:25 AM
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12. That is right wing nuttery in it's purest form, they have no ideal that burden of proof falls on the
accuser not on the accused. They see their fearful leaders accusing anyone that disagrees with them and get away with it, same with their talking heads so they come to believe that all they need to do is accuse and the burden of proof falls on the person accused. When the accused refuses to continue playing their game they claim it farther proves that persons guilt, it doesn't enter their minds that somethings are so outlandish that it isn't worth bothering to worry about. They believe, falsely, that they have a serious issue based on their lack of legal understanding of law and an ego trip that makes them think they are smarter then everyone else, when they are seen as fools.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:10 AM
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6. "042-68-4425" as a social security number pulls up no matches in the death records list
Debunked in 1 easy step.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:17 AM
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9. But you see, Barry and his Muslim minions had that record pulled.
They have that kind of power, you know. :sarcasm:
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:22 AM
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10. Ya don't say
I really thought that his "evidence" (which consisted of a sentence filled with a few baseless accusations with no sources or credible information) was irrefutable like he claimed.

:rofl:

Seriously, do you have to go through a rigorous course of stupidity training to be a Republican these days?
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:15 AM
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7. "REGISTER FOR THE SELECTIVE SERVICE IN 2008 "
Selective Service System
If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. It’s the law.

It seems he was a bit late on that registration, unless he is too young to be President.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:27 AM
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13. He has said the he and Michelle have student loans and that means
that he would have registered then to get the loans.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:36 AM
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14. He had a legal, U.S. government made passport before 2008,
all of which would have required considerable textual evidence that he was legally authorized to have one.

The whole Obama isn't a citizen thing is just thinly veil racism. I have been caustic enough to alienate the few acquaintances that believe this crap. Not even by brother sends me this kind of crap anymore.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:16 AM
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8. I would post this guy's email for you to respond but he would
add you to his list and he would flood you with his garbage emails to the point you would hate me for causing it. I know I am very angry with Leonard Clark for introducing me to Robert McDonald that caused me to get this nut's emails. So out of a sense of decency I won't do that to you good folks.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:36 PM
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16. What is stopping you from blocking his e-mails? n/t
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:40 PM
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18. Can't you block him from sending?
Most e-mail systems have a way to block people at specific addresses.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 11:23 AM
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11. lol people are sooo stupid
when all the national parks in Alaska where created the state legislator tried to pass a bill sending state troopers to washingto to arrest jimmy carter, why do people think they can get anywere near the president? He's the most protected man on this planet.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:39 PM
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17. LOL. That's hilarious.
Who ARE these people.

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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 03:09 PM
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19. seriously its true
although if you went and talked to those people today im betting you wouldnt find any of them who thought the national parks where a bad idea.
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