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Thu Sep-09-10 06:23 PM
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I hope Muslims realize that we have as many crazies as they do. |
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We can't put a lid on the crazies....not with our tabloid style MSM. The crazies are already lining up to burn the Koran and there aint much we can do about it.
So Robert Gates called the crazy redneck in Gainesville--- does that mean he'll have to call the one in Tennessee as well....Dude's gonna have a nice size phone bill when all is said and done.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:24 PM
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1. I'd say we have significantly fewer, really. nt |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:25 PM
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3. We have fewer crazies that the Muslims? |
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He he---you ever been to a Tea Party rally?
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:27 PM
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5. Did the Tea Party behead anyone? |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:29 PM
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9. OK---let's try the KKK---or maybe a militia or two... |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:31 PM
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12. Did Timothy McVeigh blow up the Federal building? |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:32 PM
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14. There's the guy who tried to cut off the cab driver's head. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:33 PM
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17. I'm sure we can find a whole bunch of incidents ---- |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:52 PM
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29. He was not tea party. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:02 PM
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35. There's no significant difference. |
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Are you a tea partier, Emily?
I know there are a few DUers who are admittedly sympathetic to the Tea Party, but I forget their usernames at the moment.
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Thu Sep-09-10 09:14 PM
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47. No I'm not - not sure I like vilifying |
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Americans who have different opinions from ours.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:33 PM
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16. Maybe not any beheadings |
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but with signs advocating violence for any health care reform or the Montana Tea Party leader joking about killing gay people.. I'd say they are pretty crazy.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:46 PM
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23. Dr. Tiller is dead as dead can be with or without his head. |
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Why do you want to do this?
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:34 PM
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40. How many have been murdered at tea party rallies? Any rape victims stoned to death legally? |
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Or authors and cartoonists marked for death.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:30 PM
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:42 PM
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20. WHAT THE FLYING FUCITY FUCK!...did you read that too? |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:43 PM
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21. Well, first we have to define "we." Then we have to explain why we are using that |
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Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 07:06 PM by Hissyspit
definition to create the particular false dichotomy we are creating. (U.S.A vs. Muslim?) Then we have to define "crazies." That's a big one there. Are we limiting it to DSM IV? Are we limiting it to violent acts? Or do we just mean sane people who commit absurd extreme acts? What about both? Then we have to gather data on that particular definition within the groups that we have defined. Then we have to defend why we are defining the groups that particular way. Then we have to...
Or we could just guess (i.e. pull it out of our ass.)
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:24 PM
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2. I think they have probably figured that one out. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:27 PM
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LOL I think they're aware of that by now,. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:27 PM
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4. LOL I think they're aware of that by now,. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:28 PM
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6. Define "we". What's your difference between Muslims and "we"? nt |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:32 PM
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13. People who aren't muslims? |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:33 PM
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but the Morans in this country want to make the religion a person.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:42 PM
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19. Sound like you've fallen prey to the mass media's mythmaking. nt |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:53 PM
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30. My disdain for the MSM keeps me safe |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:49 PM
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26. Why are we defining we that way? |
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Just as easy to define it as believers in sky deities vs. non-believers in sky deities. What is the data on comparative percentage of crazies in those groups? (See Post #21.)
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:51 PM
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27. How about Westerners, vs. non-Westerners? |
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Or how about people who are not being purposefully obtuse, vs...
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:54 PM
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32. Unless you and trumad are sharing a brain, how 'bout you let him answer? nt |
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:02 PM
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34. O.K. So define Westerners vs. non-Westerners. |
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Does that include Muslims who are living in the West? In Europe? In the U.S.? Americans living in Saudi Arabia? Not many more terms more meaningless nowadays than "Western."
Not being purposely obtuse at all. It was not a well-thought-out or well-phrased OP and there are obviously real issues with it.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:28 PM
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7. who is the "we" you are referring to??? |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:30 PM
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Well let's see--- I live in Florida which is in the USA---so I guess it's the USA.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:41 PM
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18. Muslim isn't a country. There are Muslims in the USA. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:43 PM
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Thu Sep-09-10 08:45 PM
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46. thank you. that was my point. |
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I read on a friends facebook page yesterday in reference to the muslim community center that "we" wouldn't be treated the same in "their" country so why should we let them build their mosque. That's why it caught my eye...who is the "we"??? Americans? Couldn't be...we have embassies in almost every country. Did he mean Christians? I hope not as I am not one but I'm certainly American. And who was "their" country? Never heard of the Country of Islam. Never saw them in the Olympics or learned about them in school.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:47 PM
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24. There are no Muslims in the U.S.? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 06:47 PM by Hissyspit
I understand your intention, Trumad, but not a particularly good OP. See post #21.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:52 PM
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28. Maybe the OP headline is perfectly defined for the purists here on DU... |
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but shit!!!
You gotta be so fucking precise here at this fucking place.....
Sometimes this place exhausts me...
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:53 PM
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Yes, please do be more careful. You aren't yelling to a passing speedboat, you actually have time to compose your thoughts before hitting "Post". ;)
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Fri Sep-10-10 05:25 AM
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50. Dude I've been here over 9 years... |
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Don't tell me how to post my Ops.
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:54 PM
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I understood PERFECTLY what you meant.
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:04 PM
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36. Well, I can relate to that. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-09-10 07:07 PM by Hissyspit
:hi:
Actually, this thread is a lot of fun already and I understood your intentions was good.
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:43 PM
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45. Heh! It's classic GD! |
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It never fucking changes!!
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Thu Sep-09-10 06:28 PM
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8. All these crazies should just be put in a closed place |
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I am really done with them.
Problem is... in a tribal society where the Tribal elders do approve all that goes on the concept that the President (tribal elder) does not have the power to stop this crazee... is just crazy. That is part of the problem and one that many here cannot comprehend. I do, I have dealt with people who are part of tribal societies, and at times to treat a member of the tribe we had to go through the elders...
As a person who grew up in a western mindset it was frustrating as heck... but that's the way it is.
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:10 PM
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Considering the fact that a little less than half our voting population voted for War Criminal Bush. Twice.
I'd say we have a lot more.
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:18 PM
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38. MONOTHEISM has more crazies than Secularism |
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Yes, Pot Pot and Stalin, blah blah.
But Christianity versus Islam versus Judaism? what's the standard for crazy? if it's suicide bombing, there's a clear winner.
if it's claiming that a book written by bronze-age desert-dwellers was literally dictacted by a supernatural being, and carries the weight of law, then it's a toss-up.
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:32 PM
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39. The 9-11 terrorists were not crazies -they were murderers who planned for years |
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:36 PM
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41. We have WAY more crazies than they. |
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And ours are more easily mobilized.
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:37 PM
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42. I hope CHRISTIANS know that Christians have as many crazies and Muslims do. n/t |
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Edit: speling
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:42 PM
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Probably more. Over killing people to make the world safe for American Idol.
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Thu Sep-09-10 09:17 PM
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48. This Christian knows no such thing. |
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:18 AM
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49. just look at what happened in Iraq |
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Thu Sep-09-10 07:42 PM
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I guess the "WE" thing is solved, more or less.
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