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Thu Sep-09-10 10:33 PM
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Poll question: Rate the level of pissed-ness you will experience if Democrats cut Social Security: |
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Thu Sep-09-10 10:34 PM
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1. Other: I will feel little if any surprise. |
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Thu Sep-09-10 10:38 PM
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2. Great poll, recommended. nt |
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Thu Sep-09-10 10:39 PM
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3. Yeah, recs won't show on this one |
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Thu Sep-09-10 10:53 PM
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4. I'm on the brink - this would |
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Thu Sep-09-10 11:15 PM
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Been hanging on pretty hard, but if the Dems took the initiative to do this- just forget it. They're lost.
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Thu Sep-09-10 10:56 PM
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5. I fully expect that it will happen |
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and will not be disappointed in what I see to be a normal political reaction.
Neither Rethug nor Democrat wants to raise the taxes or cut the expenses needed to produce the surplus budget that will pay off the Social Security Trust Fund IOU's.
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Thu Sep-09-10 11:19 PM
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7. It's not called the third rail for nothing. |
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It'll never happen. The fretting and worry over the fate of SS will be anticlimatic.
You'll be wondering how you could have been so foolish.
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Thu Sep-09-10 11:22 PM
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8. Let's say something now and make sure it doesn't! nt |
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Fri Sep-10-10 10:14 AM
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23. Would you have told us not to worry -- |
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about Health Care Reform as well? :eyes:
You haven't been paying attention, have you.
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:03 AM
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and trying to live on Disabilty, I can guarantee I won't have much of a reaction at all, as I will likely be either dead, on the street, or in a nursing home before too much time has passed. Trying to even make my way right now is hard enough--without the monthly amount I would get, I would be reduced to nothing.
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:08 AM
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10. Other: intense, seething ire that will result in not calling *them* Democrats ever again. n/t |
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:36 AM
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11. I'm starting to wonder what issues elected officials *do* consider sacred. |
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Do "pragmatists" by definition have no sacred issues?
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Fri Sep-10-10 04:50 AM
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15. The pragmatists have but one sacred issue.. |
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Not pissing off their owners, nothing will be done that upsets those who write the big campaign donation checks.
Knowing this one fact you can pretty much predict how any given political issue is going to eventually turn out after the Kabuki Sturm und Drang is done.
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Fri Sep-10-10 08:29 PM
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:51 AM
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12. Wait until the Republicans eliminate it completely. |
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Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 12:51 AM by Historic NY
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Fri Sep-10-10 02:42 AM
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13. This should really be anyone's last straw. |
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No one with even a chemical trace of self-respect would ever vote Democratic again.
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Fri Sep-10-10 08:36 PM
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34. Yep. My last straw was that sham called health care reform |
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there's been so many other 'last straws" that have passed since then that I've lost count.
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Fri Sep-10-10 04:34 AM
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14. polling hypotheticals now |
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sheesh. We don't have enough to worry about, let's make some shit up.:thumbsdown: proudly unrecc'd.
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:53 AM
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25. But the pragmatists refuse to take a stand on the so-called "hypotheticals." |
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And SS cuts are hardly hypothetical. Time and time again, we've seen a refusal to take a stand lead to a surprising loss... and we're afraid it will happen again.
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Fri Sep-10-10 04:04 PM
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32. The Commission is leading people to think that SS is going to be cut. nt |
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Fri Sep-10-10 04:57 AM
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16. Why would anyone be upset at pragmatists for being pragmatic? |
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Cutting SS so that the money borrowed from the trust fund doesn't have to be repaid on the backs of the suffering mega rich is a totally pragmatic thing to do.
Those campaign donation checks aren't going to write themselves.
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:55 AM
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26. Well, we're not sure YET that we're going to have to help out the mega-rich, but we're |
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leaving the option open. It's too early to commit to a "hypothetical" choice between subsidies for the mega-rich and SS for common people.
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Fri Sep-10-10 06:30 AM
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17. I will hold President Obama |
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wholly responsible. He appointed the commission and he can veto any social security gutting legislation. So if it happens it is entirely his fault. Sorry, that's just the way I feel.
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Fri Sep-10-10 08:33 AM
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18. Is this a GOPer Meme?? Cause I don't see any evidence Obama has this in mind |
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Fri Sep-10-10 08:52 AM
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19. I'd call it a real life observation. |
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a rainbow is a real life observation too, but that doesn't mean it really exists...
:shrug:
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:59 AM
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27. It's not just about Obama (who issued his carefully-framed statement earlier this week). |
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We've all seen stories about how "some moderate Democrats" are pushing for changes to SS.
If you're opposed to SS cuts, just say so in no uncertain terms. If you refuse to say so, we can reasonably assume you're open to cuts in SS.
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Fri Sep-10-10 10:12 AM
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22. I already "passed go" as a Democrat -- |
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with the offshore drilling nonsense, this would just add to the horror and could result in chaining myself to the WH fence. :mad: :puke:
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:43 PM
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28. We can predict strategy: 'we cut S.S. to save it.' |
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I can hear it now:
"Thank the Dems for saving Social Security by cutting it. The Republicans wanted to kill it."
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Fri Sep-10-10 01:37 PM
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31. It will be hailed as HISTORIC legislation! |
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Like every other ass-fucking our own party has given us lately.
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Fri Sep-10-10 12:44 PM
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I long to see a grownup conversation around this subject on DU.
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Fri Sep-10-10 01:25 PM
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30. No shit.... plus 8677474628917367 |
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