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Fri Sep-10-10 11:11 PM
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Bulletin: Frank Luntz is "bothered tremendously that we've become such an angry country" |
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Can you believe it? The GOP's vocabulary-meister is bothered by polarized America.
He just said it on Tavis Smiley's show.
Unfuckingbelievable!
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:12 PM
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1. He belongs in Grover Norquist's bathtub. |
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Sat Sep-11-10 01:17 AM
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22. I don't need to use a bathtub on him |
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Any thing from a bucket to the Pacific ocean would suit my purposes.
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Sat Sep-11-10 05:26 PM
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35. May he and Grover fight for the last bit of oxygen--well, you get the idea. nt |
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:13 PM
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2. WTF?!?! Mr Right Wing Talking Point Is Bothered? |
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Did Tavis Smiley call him out on this BS?
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:13 PM
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We are sowing what he reaped
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:36 PM
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though I think you meant we are reaping what he sowed. :)
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Sat Sep-11-10 12:43 AM
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:21 PM
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4. We should be angrier, and mostly at people like Luntz! |
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We have such a bullshit-driven discourse, and he's one of the people who helped us convert from just "bs as grease" to "bs as fuel", in terms of how the machinery of our politics runs. He should be bothered--if people are angry enough to figure out just what they've stepped in, they might get commensurately pissed-off at the critter that laid it.
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:46 PM
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13. Forget angry - hit back at their lockstep propaganda machine with the truth |
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They are driven by their right wing corporation funded super millionaires who don't want to support this nation at all but do want to line their own pockets at our expense, the loss of our homes, our wages, our health care and our children's educations - - all while they control most of mainstream media, scapegoating minorities
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:27 PM
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5. Now that the curtain has finally been pulled aside and Americans are beginning to see |
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the class warfare the rich have been waging on the middle class he doesn't like the animosity. But it was okay under Bush was it?
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:28 PM
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6. I'm angry that's he's still such a dank tuft of rectal pubic hair. |
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:33 PM
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7. Another stunner: "We don't need lobbyists' legislation." - Luntz |
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:34 PM
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8. Ironic coming from a Machiavellian figure such as himself. |
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Here is a guy who made a career from identifying fear and hatred in the electorate and then boiling it down to simple language to be used cynically for political gain. I guess he's shocked that gambling is going on in Casablanca.
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:41 PM
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10. Jeez, he goes on Tavis |
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AND lies there too. Along w/ norquist and kristol, he is a major contributor to the current hate climate. bas-turd
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:46 PM
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11. I feel so distraught that we have let him down that I may cry. |
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We have failed him, horribly, when all he ever tried to do was teach us to love one another. We don't deserve him. Great souls like his are born amongst us to improve us, to show us how to transcend our base nature, but we don't deserve him. I know I don't.
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:46 PM
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12. Then Frankie should just STFU. |
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:47 PM
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14. FUCK THAT ASSHOLE! HE CAN EAT SHIT AFAIC! |
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Fri Sep-10-10 11:59 PM
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15. Maybe Obama's answer to his question via the faux reporter at the presser |
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made him realize his messaging has been all wrong.
Could America get so lucky?
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Sat Sep-11-10 12:09 AM
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16. You know, I half-believe him |
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I knew people like him in the GOP way back when. Someone self-identified as the erudite elite, someone disdainful of the very people he'd exploit in the course of "run(ing) over my grandmother for an office", to quote someone from my distant past, someone who, for all his political smarts, was oblivious to where that would very well lead some day.
I weep for you, Frank Luntz. Well, at least I have a watery discharge for you coming out of one of my orifices.
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Sat Sep-11-10 12:31 AM
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Sat Sep-11-10 12:43 AM
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18. That's propaganda completely in line with his goals, actually. |
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Wingers need everybody else to be reasonable, so that their shoutycrackers appearances on TV can be "understood" as the "honest" reactions of usually reasonable people to the "outrageousness" of the left. It's the framing that allows them to continue their bluster and illogic, and at the same time never to be blamed for being overbearing and unreasonable. They can't help it, you see, the left is just so out there that they are forced outside their normally-reasonable demeanor.
The meta-message is that Republican behavior is always normal and natural. Once you start to look for how they take that stance, you see it all the time. If we can figure a way to cut through that reliably and convincingly, that's the end of them. I don't think I'm exaggerating.
I have to give Vice President Joe some credit. Biden's comment about Giuliani, that all his sentences were "A noun, a verb, and 9/11" was a perfect example of revealing the pattern so clearly that it loses all its punch.
So, how do we clearly show people what the Repubs are doing, and at the same time reveal them as abnormal and unnatural?
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Sat Sep-11-10 08:40 PM
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37. Well said. I think you have it right that Biden nailed it, simply enough for most to get. |
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So we keep doing that. Collapse their babble into its root message, which is usually something like 'fear something' and 'we will protect you from it'. Repeat as necessary (don't worry about being too simplistic and repetitive, their brainwashed victims require the constant reinforcement).
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Sat Sep-11-10 08:52 PM
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38. This post is too important to slip away unnoticed. Really good insight. |
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Maybe you can post it as an OP?
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Sat Sep-11-10 08:56 PM
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39. Precisely how he works. We need this dialog--I agree with the previous poster |
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who encouraged you to post this as a stand-alone.
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Sat Sep-11-10 10:54 PM
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Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 11:23 PM by bigmonkey
I guess I better make the attempt, then. I'll put it up tomorrow late morning sometime.
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Sat Sep-11-10 12:45 AM
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20. He doesn't have a good grasp of cause and effect, does he? |
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Sat Sep-11-10 01:12 AM
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21. I had to fight this guys rent-a-mobs for several years |
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They handed out Best Buy gift cards to any random assholes who would show up at hearings and make a nuisance of themselves.
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Sat Sep-11-10 02:21 AM
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23. If we Democrats would always concede elections to the |
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republicans and let them steal and robe the country they wouldn't always be pushing hate and violence. They think they should rule forever.
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Sat Sep-11-10 02:26 AM
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24. Translation: The unwashed masses outside my gated community are now mad about unemployment, wall st. |
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and income disparity---
instead of gay marriage, abortion, and prayer in schools.
:o
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Sat Sep-11-10 02:44 AM
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25. Bulletin: Bonnie & Clyde "shocked and horrified at how violent America has become" |
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Sat Sep-11-10 03:03 AM
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26. Not much more I can add here except... |
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that I really really hope that he like hot weather because that MOTHERFUCKER, who helped start this horrible discourse many years ago, is so going straight to fucking hell.
THE HELL EXPRESS FOR HIM!!!!
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Sat Sep-11-10 04:09 AM
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27. All the hate and anger comes from the top |
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The leaders promote all the hate and anger. The political leaders, the leaders of the press, the leaders of churches, the leaders of corporations.
If the people at the top stopped talking about attacking people, called out to stop the hate, then the level of anger would fall greatly. But they will not because it serves their purpose to have the masses at the bottom angry at the other side.
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Sat Sep-11-10 04:25 AM
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28. Typical republicon - a hypocrite who projects his sins onto others |
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No wonder Americans hold Republicons in such low regard.
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Sat Sep-11-10 07:50 AM
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29. Common scumbag.....is this the little shit's midlife crisis? |
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Sat Sep-11-10 07:51 AM
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30. Why'd that cat get so mad at me? I was only poking it with a stick! |
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Sat Sep-11-10 04:43 PM
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Well, what can I say, Mr. Luntz? I do agree with you and am too bothered by the fact that we've gotten so angry.
But Mr. Luntz, you've helped make it that way. You see, your hand-wringing might have been helpful had you, say, not helped to created the vernacular of piss and vinegar now used by GOP pundits, GOP politicians, Teabaggers, and every other wrongheaded moron in this country, just to serve an interest of getting the next GOP douchebag elected. I can't help thinking that the angriest people in this country wouldn't have the words or the drive to express them had people like yourself not placed these toxic, inhumane, and ultimately stupid ideas and the words to express those ideas before them. The people you've targeted for the campaign of harsh words are people who are bereft of ideas unless they are spoon fed them by the likes of you. And now you've made us angry. Yes, the collateral damage in your war against good goddamn common sense in the name of keeping your pathetic party in power is those you would oppose. By forcing us to have to fight these clueless malcontents you've created, you have turned politics from a irksome (though occasionally useful) exercise into a pointless, futile, frothing-at-the-mouth shoutfest.
Fuck you and your fretting. Fuck you and your hand-wringing. Fuck you and your concern.
It's yours. OWN IT.
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Sat Sep-11-10 04:50 PM
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32. A pile of shit decries the unpleasant smell |
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Sat Sep-11-10 04:52 PM
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33. Frank Putz can go fuck himself. |
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Sat Sep-11-10 04:58 PM
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that we haven't yet escalated from shouting to shooting? That's the only thing he could possibly be "bothered" by, given his efforts. Scumbag.
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Sat Sep-11-10 05:33 PM
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36. From the man whose new career is spent keeping his chickens from coming home to roost. |
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Could he be any more pathetic?
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Sun Sep-12-10 11:32 AM
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41. Everything Luntz says is deliberate framing.... |
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that is how he earns his paycheck. By using the word "angry", Mr. Luntz is bringing back the 'angry black man' crap, in essence, saying the country wouldn't be angry if there wasn't an 'angry black man' in the White House, imo.
Luntz is pure filth.
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