BeFree
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Sun Sep-12-10 08:53 AM
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Imagine Albert Gore as: President on Aug. 6, 2001 |
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Would he have told the CIA person who delivered the daily briefing that he "had covered his ass" and then forgot about it like '*' did?
Or would Gore have set the wheels in motion to round up the suspects, and issue a warning to the US thereby preventing 9/11?
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Sun Sep-12-10 08:58 AM
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1. They would have continued spec ops in Afghanistan |
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that were already in place in 2000, but stopped by Bush in early 2001. If they had found bin Laden back then, the whole hijacking operation likely would have been stopped in its tracks.
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Sun Sep-12-10 08:59 AM
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2. The latter, of course! |
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If only If only If only If only....they had COUNTED EVERY VOTE!
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Sun Sep-12-10 10:28 AM
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7. NO if only the Supreme Court had not over reached their authority |
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and literally appointed Bush president. I have thought about this and it all comes back to Thurgood Marshall. It is a shame that he was so ill he had to resign right before Clinton was elected. That one thing would have saved this country. If he could have waited til February of the next year, we now wouldn't have a republican majority in the Supreme Court. Republican majority OR should I say a RIGHT WING ACTIVIST MAJORITY.
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Sun Sep-12-10 09:00 AM
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3. Even before that there would have been a working group on terrorism |
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unlike dumbfuck who's admin just blew it off. Since the Clinton admin had been working hard on this, it would not have been dropped. Many Bushies say Gore would have done the same after 9/11. I am of the opinion that 9/11 would never had happened during a Gore presidency.
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Sun Sep-12-10 09:06 AM
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4. "Opinion"...More like "Fact" |
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Sun Sep-12-10 01:27 PM
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13. You are absolutely correct, IMO. Clinton's people warned Bush's people about |
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Al Quaeda as they left the WH. But Bush's people said "Thanks but no thanks. We're focusing on Star Wars defense systems."
We see where that lack of foresight got us...
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Sun Sep-12-10 09:13 AM
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5. Gore Wouldn't Have Stopped It |
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Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 09:15 AM by iamjoy
In the alternate universe: President Gore would have gotten that PDB - the same one President Bush got in ours.
Immediately, Gore would have moved to implement procedures to improve airline security. But the aviation industry would have made a huge fuss. The Republicans in Congress and their right wing pals would have hollered about how the President was infringing on our liberties and trying to ruin business. So, President Gore would have backed down. Even if he didn't, Congress would have blocked any of his suggested reforms.
So, September 11 would have happened anyway. And after it, the Republicans and right wing shrews would have been blaming President Gore for not doing more to stop it. Unless of course, in this alternate universe Republicans and right wing media are reasonable.
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Sun Sep-12-10 09:14 AM
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6. The CIA & Clinton Admin. knew who these guys were and what they planned back in early 2000. |
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Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 09:46 AM by leveymg
The details were passed on to the Bushies. U.S. Intel knew the identities and plans by monitoring an al-Qaeda planning summit in January 2000 where the 9/11 and Cole operations were planned. The CIA followed two of the attendees -- the Flt. 77 hijackers, al-Hazmi and al-Midhar -- after they entered the U.S. on 01/15/00. A warning cable to FBI was drafted at CIA Counterterrorism Center, but was withheld at the order of the CIA-CTC Assistant Director, but CIA Director George Tenet was briefed on multiple occasions.
The difference was, when George Tenet suddenly flew to Crawford in the latter part of August and he (implies in his autobiography) tried to talk the President into rolling up the AQ cells, Bush refused. Only minimal steps were taken to prevent some of the known hijackers from departing the U.S., not to arrest them and keep them off airplanes. It's hard to believe that Gore would have refused the urgings from the Agency to let the FBI loose, if indeed that's what Tenet was urging.
Finally, on August 24, Bush met with Rumsfeld, Gens. Myers and Pace, Condie, and his inner circle, the Flt. 77 hijackers -- al-Midhar and al-Hazmi -- were watchlisted. However, the CIA did not release all its files to the FBI and the Bureau Field Agents still could not get NSA taps. Someone was counseling George W. Bush into keeping the operation in motion. The only question now is who and why.
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Sun Sep-12-10 11:00 AM
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8. But didn't 9-11 hand junior his trifecta, setting the stage for all that has followed, to wit: |
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fruition of a long-held virulent RW PNAC agenda, a wet dream of a lifetime? :shrug:
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Sun Sep-12-10 12:29 PM
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9. Gore would have taken the warning seriously. Then again, Gore wouldn't be plastered either. |
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Sun Sep-12-10 12:39 PM
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10. A Houston reporter covering Gov Bush in Texas said Bush wanted to go to war if he became president. |
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I heard that story last year but it was obvious that reporter didn't speak out when it mattered. I can't recall the reporters name right now but I'll post it later. Bush told him he would go to war if he became president a few years before 9/11. And then Bush manufactured reasons to go to war against a country which had nothing to do with 9/11 and the masses all went along. I didn't and neither did people like on DU.
I wish I would have discovered DU back then. Hell, I just heard about Keith and Rachel in January 2009. My friends and I wondered why no one was thinking what we were thinking about how corrupt the Bush Regime was. I has to tough put the entire Bush presidency all alone.
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Sun Sep-12-10 12:45 PM
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We are glad you are here.
When I found DU in early 2001, I couldn't believe my eyes. No longer a just voice in the wilderness, but, instead in a community of like minded souls!!
Many think bushco was a mistake, while we know it was quite the operation, as your post implies.
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Sun Sep-12-10 12:57 PM
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12. I actually yelled at the TV during press conferences because reporters didn't ask Bush questions! |
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Not one asked him how Iraq could attack us!!!
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Mon Sep-13-10 07:03 AM
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15. Here's the link to the revelation about Bush wanting war 2 years before 9/11 |
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Here's a link to a lot of what Mickey revealed about Bush. Bush even said Carter failed because he didn't start a war. It's a shame none of Mickey Herskowitz's statements were aired in the main stream media. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm
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Mon Sep-13-10 07:02 AM
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14. Mickey Herskowitz, a writer in Texas told about Bush's plans for war two years before 9/11 |
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Here's a link to a lot of what Mickey revealed about Bush. Bush even said Carter failed because he didn't start a war. It's a shame none of Mickey Herskowitz's statements were aired in the main stream media. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm
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Mon Sep-13-10 08:06 AM
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16. It'd be a different world today. |
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America wouldn't stand on the edge of the precipice, fiscally and spiritually bankrupt.
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