kentuck
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Sun Sep-12-10 01:46 PM
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George W Bush is still the President of the United States? |
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Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 01:50 PM by kentuck
Why?
Because he fixed it so his policies would continue. He doesn't have to sit in the White House.
He gave the wealthy their huge taxcuts and then left an economy so badly deteriorated that Congress is afraid to let them expire. Even though the Bush taxcuts were required by law to expire at the end of this year, Democrats are shaking in their boots and fearful of the political consequences. Even though there is no proof the taxcuts would do anything to help our economy.
After all, they were in effect when George W Bush left office. And there were 750,000 jobs lost in his last month in office. He lost over 3 million jobs with those taxcuts in place before he departed Washington. In fact, they have been in effect since Barack Obama was sworn in and are in effect as we speak. What have they accomplished? Keeping them in effect will change absolutely nothing - except to increase our monstrous deficits.
The ghost of George W Bush can be heard in the Oval Office at night, smirking and laughing at his devilish achievements. And it is not just the taxcuts that he is so proud of. It is the wars that he started and are continuing even to this day. It is Guantanamo. It is the evil policies of torture and rendition and secret spying on America that continues.
But, look at what Barack Obama has accomplished, you say. I think it is time to call Ghostbusters and get rid of this demon once and for all...
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Sun Sep-12-10 01:48 PM
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1. Democrats are shaking in their boots and fearful of the political consequences |
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They just want an excuse they can try to sell their constituents to continue those tax cuts.
Even if we werent in an economic downturn they would try to find an excuse.
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Sun Sep-12-10 01:49 PM
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2. Policies of previous administrations linger well into the first term |
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of any President of another party. Did you expect otherwise? Inertia's a powerful thing. Expecting rapid changes is bound to lead to disappointment. It literally never happens.
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Sun Sep-12-10 01:59 PM
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3. I know this is negative to say, but sometimes I think we might have been better |
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Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 02:00 PM by RKP5637
if the whole thing had crashed down and we were now rebuilding it better. IMO all that's been done is the same corrupt mismanaged bloated financial system has been propped up and band-aided. Real progress has not been made.
People are really frustrated. Bold steps were needed, but the democrats were too timid and afraid. Now, people will vote in republicans IMO out of their frustration for change. The problem is, if/when the republicans get in the change will be even worse than Bush.
The majorities were squandered by the democrats. Now I fear we all are going to suffer miserably in the coming years, Bush will have looked far better than if/when the republicans are back in again.
Too bad the democrats did not work together for bold effective change when the majorities were held. I see nothing but a F'en mess down the road. I do hope I am wrong. Just saying what I feel now.
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kentuck
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Sun Sep-12-10 02:03 PM
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4. And if Hoover had known it was going to be so bad... |
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maybe he would have done more than prop up the status quo? Barack Obama got a very shitty hand dealt to him. There was no way he could have pleased the Republicans. But he could have done things that might have disappointed the Democrats less. But that is in total hindsight, I admit.
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Sun Sep-12-10 02:12 PM
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5. OUR TURN is coming...after 16 years of DEM CONTROL....we will have filled many positions |
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Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 02:13 PM by opihimoimoi
just as WBush did.
The SC and Lower courts is gonna be OBJECTIVE as it should be...
as well as many positions running the top tier...
This is the GOPers worst Fears....that we payback with TRUTH REASON and COMMON SENSE...things alien to Republicans
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kentuck
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Sun Sep-12-10 02:21 PM
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7. I hope you are right, opihimoimoi... |
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But as long as we have Democrats that are void of spines, I have my doubts.
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Sun Sep-12-10 03:05 PM
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10. Evolution demands periodic cleansing from things counter productive |
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The GOPers are DRAINERS
NOT GAINERS
Strong coffee and Visine is in order
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Sun Sep-12-10 02:49 PM
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9. Speaker Boehner laughs. nt |
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Sun Sep-12-10 03:07 PM
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11. The Moaner Groaner still laughs?? at what? has to be BAD SHIT |
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The man is a Fraud
Country First his ASS
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Mon Sep-13-10 11:40 AM
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:wow: :rofl:
yeah, we *automatically* get 16 years, despite the high unemployment rate and NAFTA....
don't bogart the joint dude.... :rofl:
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Sun Sep-12-10 02:20 PM
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6. Careful what you say: I was recently scathed big-time for OP pondering what if BHO |
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had implemented solely a progressive agenda instead of having ratified/continued so many of junior's policies and initiatives. ;)
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Sun Sep-12-10 02:26 PM
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the difference between the state and government you can understand how it is that policies carry forth for years and years. The state is the permanent collection of institutions that have entrenched power structures and interests. The government is made up of various politicians, politicians who in most cases have proven their allegiance to these vested interests.
It is the institutions of the state that hold the real power due to their permanence, not the representatives who come and go.
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Sun Sep-12-10 03:23 PM
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12. That's a very good point you make that, "It is the institutions of the state that hold the real |
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power due to their permanence, not the representatives who come and go." Also with that is the "real" wealth and power of the country that transcends the representatives coming and going, election after election.
The real wealth and power in this country pulls the stings of power and the politicians usually do their bidding. It would take a massive effort by the people to change it around.
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Sun Sep-12-10 03:47 PM
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they evolve into this permanence with each succeeding Congress. As more and more Democrats get closer and closer to Wall Street and more and more taxcuts are divvied out to the wealthy, eventually we get to where we are now. It doesn't just happen overnight. Unfortunately, we have brought it upon ourselves.
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Sun Sep-12-10 03:57 PM
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14. Quite true, sadly quite true. And now we have the Meg Whitmans of the |
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Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 04:00 PM by RKP5637
world that just simply finance their own campaigns. How much of a democracy can that be. And we have corporations that have basically bought the gov. and SCOTUS is just fine with it all... I really think we are evolving into which corporate institution did one vote for rather than which candidate of which political party.
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