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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:10 PM
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so...what was the point of NAFTA again?
Jobs here disappearing...maquiladoras south of the Rio Grande not enough to sustain workers in Mexico (big shocker there) so they naturally come here...worker rights and environmental protections shot to hell...tell me again why FTAs are such great ideas. Anyone?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:12 PM
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1. That "sucking" sound
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:13 PM
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2. yep. nt
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:13 PM
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4. such a cool sound. n/t
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:13 PM
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3. destroy Unions....
....and lower labor costs....
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:16 PM
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6. why do we still have Dems backing it?
Or can we close the book on the Dem/labor alliance?
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:39 PM
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13. the way I see it....
....the books been closed for over 20 years....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:14 PM
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5. NAFTA
Nother
American Worker
Fucked by
Trade (outsourced work)with
Another country..


Best I could do....perhaps someone can come up with a better one...you get what I mean
:grr:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:20 PM
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9. I got nothing so far.
:thumbsup:
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:21 PM
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18. Or this
No

American

Factories

Taking

Applications
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:16 PM
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7. Not To Sodomize The Middle Class!!!
The purpose was to help the Rich. Sodomizing the Middle Class was only an (obvious) byproduct.

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:18 PM
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8. accidental sodomy?
:rofl:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:32 PM
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10. Nafta was supposed to establish Trade Markets
in which Mexico, Canada, some SAmerican countries
would participate. It was to bring wealth and prosperity
to all(sarcasm). You know a real boom.

However, they ignored Ricardo's basic rule --there must
be comparative advantage. In other words when you put Mexico
up against the US --no bais for comparison. GDP, Wages,
whatever. Compare US to SA . It might take a few countries
to even have the GDP of California. In other words, like many
things Nafta was established on shaky weak not workable soil.
Free Trades works great when there is comparative advantage.

In these situations, the poor people in other countries do
not earn enough to buy our products. Products can be made
very cheaply in those countries and shipped back to US. Not
free trade. Surely not fair trade. The two or three companies
should be trading products more evenly.

Our jobs got shipped to Mexico because the Transnationals could
make ever so much money. But then just as Mexico began to jjust
start to get up on its knees----That giant sucking sound swooshed
in from China. Transnationals found people who earn even less.
Mexico has been left in a Depression and we are seeing the
results of Nafta in Immigration Problem.

To be fair I will concede thatTechnolgy has added to the Nafta Problem.

Do not get me started on Trade Policy.





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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:55 PM
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16. Ricardo is probably rolling over in his grave
NAFTA is NOT free trade.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:32 PM
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11. North American Free Trade Act....I guess it is about free trade
....trade in jobs, human beings, exploitation, avoiding tariffs and taxes, and so forth. The sucking sound is billionaires getting blown
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:34 PM
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12. So Ford & GM can make millions!
um, wait... I'll try again...

So Hagen Dazs can make Dulce de Leche ice cream! Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Sputnik55 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:49 PM
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14. No Advantage for the Americans n/t
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:07 AM
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20. Hi Sputnik55!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:50 PM
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15. To create the north american (or all americas) union like the bloody EU
Part of the NWO.
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BigRed1975 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:17 PM
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17. I think we should have Hillary consult...
with her chief advisor. Maybe he can tell us.

Big Red
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Sonicmedusa Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:11 PM
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19. Got that right
I am so worried for my children.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:08 AM
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21. Hi BigRed1975!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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BigRed1975 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:31 AM
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25. Thankyou...
Looking forward to some spirited exchange. Whoever wins, it will be a Democrat..and that is a good thing!

Big Red
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:19 AM
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23. ...
:yoiks:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:15 AM
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22. The purpose was TOTAL exploitation of the working poor & poor & the gutting of the middle class
so that some greedy bastards can have a sh*tload of money that they will never spend in their lifetimes! :grr:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:20 AM
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24. Mission Accomplished. nt
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