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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:17 PM
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Hoe many ways can you say LIED????
Tweety really got ticked at one of his guests today when he was smiling about Newt callin Obama a Kenyan, and he yelled "It's NOT FUNNY!"

But beyond that, both that guest & Howard Fineman said things like "FACTUAL INACURACY & fACTUALLY FALSE THAT WAS A FALSEHOOD"!

HOW DAMN MANY WAYS CAN YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR WITHOUT JUST COMING OUT & SAYING IT!!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrr...
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:19 PM
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1. That posses me off too. Why don't they just call them liars? !!!!!!!!!
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:24 PM
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3. Lying SACKS OF SHIT
They are so very loathesome; and it is sickening to see the rightwing nutjobs "get away with it" time after time.

Call 'em out, I say.

:mad:
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ClarkJonathanKent Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:39 PM
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4. It's sad.
People treat facts as opinions and opinions as facts. A person clearly lies and you have to pretend he didn't. A person thinks he speaks for God and you have to treat him like that might be true. It's insane.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:50 PM
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13. I know several people who believe 'god' is speaking thru Beck.
It's scary when you think how ignorant and stupid people have to be to believe that nonsense. They lap up all of Beck's words like they are gospel even though Beck makes his living by bearing false witness against his neighbors, a violation of their God's Commandments. I am truly amazed at their stupidity.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:22 PM
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2. the thugs aren't afraid to call the President a liar...to his face
on national teevee

ala joe wilson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foOioaQf-c8
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bluefin Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:39 PM
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5. That was hilarious!
Uncalled for but still really funny!
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:05 PM
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8. I didn't find it funny at all.
My $.02.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:59 PM
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14. Treating them like gentlemen is like "casting pearls before swine".
Yet Obama continues to treat them like gentlemen. So these swine "turn on him and tear
at him." It's exactly as written in the New Testament.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:54 PM
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6. I dunno. Toe many?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 07:02 PM
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15. Loeve the hoemor to Boehner.
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TheMuse Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 04:57 PM
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7. They almost refuse to say it
You don't see any pundits, anchors, columists, etc say someone lied. They say mispoke, factually inaccurate. I don't know when it became against the rules to call out someone for lying. It is almost like they don't want to step on anyones toes and dance around it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:34 PM
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9. I think it must be a TV network thing because Big Eddie
calls them out as liars on his radio show but NEVER on his TV show.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:48 PM
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10. "Liar" is a personal characterization, "Willfully false statement" is directed to the words /nt

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 05:58 PM
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11. People who make willfully false statements are liars..
And willfully false statements are indeed lies.

The two terms are semantically equivalent.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 07:40 PM
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16. Yes

However, in polite conversation, one does not make personal characterizations.

I baked a cake once. Am I a baker?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 08:01 PM
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17. There is a another way to phrase the same root word so that is not a personal characterization..
"You lie."

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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:35 PM
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12. I think I know the answer
Being "factually inaccurate" or "false" does not imply motive - the person could just be ill-informed. Lying implies willfully representing falsehoods as fact.
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