Anyone besides me pissed that Martin Bashir just got a new MSNBC show and Cenk Uygur did not?

[Tx4obama]

MSNBC's new revamped anchor line-up schedule below:

5:30-6 AM: Willie Geist
6-9 AM: Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski And Willie Geist
9-10 AM: Chuck Todd And Savannah Guthrie
10 AM-12 PM: Chris Jansing And Richard Lui
12-1 PM: Contessa Brewer
1-2 PM: Andrea Mitchell
2-3 PM: Tamron Hall
3-4 PM: Martin Bashir
4-5 PM: Dylan Ratigan
5-6 PM: Chris Matthews
6-7 PM: Ed Schultz
7-8 PM: Chris Matthews
8-9 PM: Keith Olbermann
9-10 PM: Rachel Maddow
10-11 PM: Lawrence O'Donnell

That is a bunch of BS giving Martin Bashir an hour while we are all waiting for Cenk Uygur to get a show!!!
And they are crazy for running a repeat of Hardball in the evening instead of putting Cenk in that time-slot!!! Grrr!

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. I got a better question... who is Martin Bashir?

the only Bashir I know is a fictional character.

[Tx4obama]

2. I've never heard of him. Apparently Bashir is an ex-"Nightline" anchor

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/13/msnbcs-new-anchor-lineup_n_715006.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Ah that explains it. Haven't seen Nightline

since Koppel left...

[Common Sense Party]

27. Another question...Who is Cenk Uygur?

:shrug:

[Tx4obama]

29. You never watch Cenk's TYT videos here on DU ?

Also, Cenk has been filling at MSNBC for the past few months.
Many of those video clips have also been posted here on the front page of DU.

[Canuckistanian]

35. He did a radio/video show called The Young Turks

You should watch the Youtube videos - he's an excellent progressive pundit.

He was also a fill-in for Ed Shultz on MSNBC, and a lot of us felt he deserved his own show.

[JTFrog]

40. An ex-republican who voted for reagan and bush but now found he has more in common

with the professional left.

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. I know who he is because of radio

and Air America, now defunct... a few of the AA staff have moved on to the TEEVEE machine, chiefly Rachel Maddow. Trivia, Big Eddie is not out of that farm team, but many people believe he is.

[Ramulux]

3. I was super pissed when I saw that

What is MSNBC doing? They have a handful of such great people and then they destroy any chance of having a great overall network by putting on these losers who are just terrible at their jobs. Seriously, this is a terrible lineup. Cenk is just so much better than everyone at that network put together, do they not realize what huge ratings he could bring in? He would revitalize the network and I am sure some of the people who would change to MSNBC to watch him would stick around for the shows afterwards. Its a win-win situation.

[ihavenobias]

14. I'm not pissed considering how well things are going for TYT

For example: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/08/entertainment/la-et-onthemedia-20100908

[20score]

16. It is going great. But I really thought Cenk would get the next slot.

And the fact that you guys are doing great, is in no small part because of you.

[Tx4obama]

18. Perhaps Cenk is doing 'too good' at MSNBC & they don't want to lose him as a FILL-IN ;( n/t

[DJ13]

4. Why does Tweety still have a repeat hour?

Seems like a waste.

[spanone]

6. daytime m$nbc is a sad lot - bashir did 'the' michael jackson interviews

In 2003, Bashir conducted a series of interviews with pop singer Michael Jackson, as part of a documentary for ITV. Following the broadcast, which was viewed by 14 million in the UK and 38 million in the US, several media personalities accused Bashir of yellow journalism, claiming that he deliberately doctored the recordings in order to paint Jackson in an unflattering light, as well as emphasising the allegations of child molestation made against Jackson. The New York Times called Bashir's journalism style "callous self-interest masked as sympathy."<4>

In response, Jackson and his personal cameraman released a rebuttal interview, which showed Bashir complimenting Jackson for the "spiritual" quality of the Neverland Ranch, thus contradicting the journalist's previous statements that it was a "dangerous place" for children. Bashir also describes Jackson as a wonderful father and says that Jackson's relationship with his children "almost makes him weep".<5>

Dieter Wiesner, the pop star's manager from 1996 to 2003, stated about the influence of Bashir's documentary on Michael Jackson:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bashir

[onehandle]

7. Was Cenk even being considered?

Just because he's done a guest anchor now and then, doesn't mean he was ever in the running.

[Tx4obama]

8. Cenk is part of the MSNBC family according to MSNBC Pres Phil Griffin

Excerpts:

.... And recent ratings show that the 40-year-old host outdrew MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan on the five days he replaced the daytime host in July and August. (While Ratigan averaged 276,000 viewers in August, Uygur drew an average of 293,000.)

Cable executives hope fill-in hosts can at best hold on to the audiences they inherit. But MSNBC insiders said they believe Uygur did so well because many of those who watch his three-hour weekday Web program, (3 to 6 p.m. PDT) or clips on his YouTube channel jumped to MSNBC when Ratigan was out.

AND

MSNBC President Phil Griffin called Uygur “part of our family” and expects him to get “more and more” air time, though he declined to specify in what time slots.

http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2010/09/07/cenk-uygur-profile/

[onehandle]

12. You don't have to convince me. I would add Chris Hayes to a wish list too.

(Chris has been doing a good job sitting in for Rachel)

But it doesn't mean Cenk was in consideration for a slot. Hopefully down the road.

[stray cat]

9. if you can convince msnbc there are better ratings to be had - they would likely do it

[Tx4obama]

10. See coment #8 on this thread. They already know Cenk gets good ratings. n/t

[geek tragedy]

11. Cenk "Reagan was better than Obama" Uygur?

Addition by subtraction.

[ihavenobias]

15. Don't use full quotes if it's not a direct quote.

He never said that (not even close). Maybe use a half quote, like 'this'.

[geek tragedy]

21. Okay, he said Reagan was more progressive than Obama. nt

[ihavenobias]

22. Wrong again.

He said the political spectrum has moved so far to the right in the last 30 years that certain things he did even a modern day Democratic president wouldn't do. For example, amnesty for millions of undocumented workers.

He also explicitly said (more than once) that of course Reagan is NOT more liberal than Obama overall. Again, the point was about the shit of the political spectrum in Washington and the resultant policies.

[geek tragedy]

26. Nope, he never said that Reagan was not more liberal than Obama.

Watch that taped segment, read his posts. Never says it.

[jgraz]

23. Nope, he didn't say that either.

Strike two. Care to go for the misinformation trifecta?

[geek tragedy]

25. Okay, he said Obama was to the right of Reagan, that

Obama was more conservative than Reagan, that Reagan was to the left of Obama.

Still a dumbfuck any which way you put it.

[jgraz]

28. Congratulations, you hit the Not Getting It Trifecta!

You win a lifetime subscription to Politifact and a set of Lilly Ledbetter steak knives.

[geek tragedy]

32. Aren't you supposed to be on boycott? nt

[JTFrog]

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I do not think it means what they think it means.






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[POAS]

56. Was that supposed to pass for intelligent?.............n/t

[NJmaverick]

34. I think you need to check those sites yourself as you have been completely

and utterly wrong

[jgraz]

53. Sorry, some of us are able to comprehend nuance and subtext

And even if I wasn't able to do that, Cenk has explained *exactly* what he's trying to say in that argument many, many times. Since you don't watch his show, there's no way you could know this.

You should consider signing up as a TYT member (only $10 a month). You'd certainly learn a few things.

[POAS]

57. Your the exception?

Maybe the worst waste of $10 ever.

[jgraz]

59. Maybe you could spend the 10 bucks on grammar lessons

[POAS]

60. Ouch, more brilliance. Do you pay extra for the

grammar police badge?

[jgraz]

62. A bit of advice.

If you're going to insult someone's intelligence, try not to look like a semiliterate sixth-grader when you do it.

[POAS]

63. Wow you really cut me to the core.

I applaud your abilities.

:applause:

[Cha]

46. There must be more bucks in

dumbfuckery for those professional mediawhores.

[JTFrog]

54. There's a sucker born every minute.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9127361&mesg_id=9128937">(only $10 a month)

:rofl:
:rofl:

[POAS]

58. But if you give him $ 10 a month

you get all the content for free. Such a deal!

[NJmaverick]

33. How can you get so many things so wrong?

[frazzled]

17. Well, Cenk was formerly a Republican

What's up with all these former Republicans becoming media personalities popular with the progressive left? There's Arianna Huffington, Kos, Cenk ... and former/current libertarian/political agnostic Glenn Greenwald. I'm forgetting a few.

[Canuckistanian]

36. Don't forget David Brock, founder of Media Matters

He started the Clinton "Troopergate" bullshit. But then, after doing research on a Hillary Clinton book, he found out that all the charges against the Clintons were slanders and lies.

I imagine all of the people you listed had that "WTF was I thinking?" moment.

[Cha]

49. Now he's a professional leftist..they both

suck.

[Cleita]

13. I think they are looking to replace anchors rather than

add another talk show host. I'm thinking Cenk will get a show when Joe Scarborough gets canned. I hope they dump Joe when his contract is up. I don't think he gets a lot of viewers. Patience grasshopper.

[Warpy]

19. He needs the morning, get ready for work slot

not the mid afternoon, who the hell is watching? slot.

Dump Morning Schmo and give him the time slot.

[jillan]

20. Yes - but even more pissed that Tweety still gets 2 hours.

[WillyT]

30. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said...

:kick:

[jgraz]

24. Pissed, but not the least bit surprised.

Corporate media picks a corporate journalist over someone who regularly takes on the corporate hegemony? Who didn't see that coming?

(BTW, I still expect Cenk to end up on TV somewhere. He's just too much of a draw to let go. Then again, there's Phil Donahue, so what do I know? :shrug:)

[LLStarks]

31. Cenk needs the 7pm slot. Knowing MSNBC, they'll have Chris live at 7pm and Give Cenk the 5pm slot.nt

[Canuckistanian]

37. Martin who?

I looked up his Wiki entry. Pretty thin resumé.

He doesn't seem to be renowned for anything other than interviews with Princess Diana and Michael Jackson.

[HipChick]

38. British reporter - MSNBC needed more diversity

in their line up

[Canuckistanian]

43. How about a Canadian reporter?

Or don't we count as minorities?

We've already taken over all the good Hollywood comedic jobs.

[Tx4obama]

45. MSNBC still needs an African-American male and a Latino/Latina as hosts. n/t

[HipChick]

47. they booted Carlos Watson out the door

He got the David Schuster treatment

[mucifer]

51. I agree! nt

[Canuckistanian]

52. Yes, come to think of it

MSNBC seems to be pretty lacking in the color department. I couldn't think of a single black or Latino host.

Hell, even CNN has Rick Sanchez.

[Tx4obama]

64. MSNBC 2-3 PM: Tamron Hall. She's African-American; I like her. n/t

[JTFrog]

39. Not one iota.

Thanks for asking.

:hi:

[CBR]

44. MSNBC sucks just like the rest of the media. Who cares? nt

[Bluenorthwest]

48. I can not stand Bahir. Would never ever watch him for a minute.

I do not watch daytime cable anyway, but he's a line in the sand as far as I'm concerned. He is the worst.

[lonestarnot]

55. Yes, yes I am. Who's Martin Bashir?

[jgraz]

65. Wasn't he on Deep Space Nine?

:shrug:

[SoxFan]

68. LOL

That's what I always think, too!

[lonestarnot]

69. What's Deep Space Nine?

:shrug: :rofl:

[Raineyb]

72. No that's Julian Bashir.

Decent eye-candy on one of my favorite shows. Don't know who that other Bashir is.

[QC]

66. Why couldn't they get Martin Landau to do it? n/t

[shimmergal]

70. Can't identify Martin Bashir offhand,

but I'm quite outraged at Laurence O'Donnell getting his own show. Especially after he tried to rip to shreds those two successive guests who were defending Social Security's basic health.

Would much rather see Cenk in that slot.

Will have to take a look at Tamron Hall; I've been wishing for another female anchor to supplement Rachel, and those ladies in the morning just don't do it. Is she (Tamron) on now?

[Tx4obama]

71. Yes.

Tamron Hall has two hours now in the early afternoon.
She's the one that was co-hosting with David Schuster before MSNBC took him off the air.