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Thu May-17-07 09:24 PM
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What Do You Say About A Person, Who Could Easily Be President, Yet Isn't Interested ??? |
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Edited on Thu May-17-07 09:30 PM by WillyT
Frustratingly refreshing!!! Dammit!!! :banghead: Sigh...
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Thu May-17-07 09:25 PM
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1. He's been elected President of the United States already... |
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...maybe he'd like to try something else.
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Thu May-17-07 09:27 PM
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Thu May-17-07 09:41 PM
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12. I call him a realist.... |
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He knows he can't win the presidency at this late date. He also knows that if he were President that he would be consumed with recovering from Bush malfeasance to the detriment of focusing on global warming issues. He's demonstrated no sincere interest in politics in the last few years. I don't hear him commenting at all about the war these days. Great speech he gave out here at the Commonwealth club in 2002. Since then, not a whole lot. Global warming is his passion. Ashamed he didn't get much done before when he and Clinton punted on Kyoto.
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Thu May-17-07 09:47 PM
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13. How Long Have You Been Working For The Obama Campaign ??? |
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Thu May-17-07 09:56 PM
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19. You've missed a lot of his speeches, then. And his new book, too... |
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Thu May-17-07 09:25 PM
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Anyone who really wants to be president is crazy, in my not humble at all opinion.
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Thu May-17-07 09:34 PM
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10. I posted the same thing before I read yours. |
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Thu May-17-07 09:53 PM
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Thu May-17-07 09:27 PM
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4. I'd say, "Whatever you think best, Dr Einstein." n/m |
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Thu May-17-07 09:27 PM
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Freepers couldn't stop talking about it.
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Thu May-17-07 09:32 PM
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Was photoshopped, and I didn't see it at first.
Apologies to all.
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Thu May-17-07 10:05 PM
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I must have missed it too. Hakuna matata.
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Thu May-17-07 09:30 PM
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6. I'd say he's a pretty smart man. nt |
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Thu May-17-07 09:32 PM
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7. "Self-actualized", as we learned in nursing school. |
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Thu May-17-07 09:33 PM
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9. He's the sanest one of the bunch? I wouldn't have the job for a million bucks a day. |
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Thu May-17-07 09:36 PM
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11. Not a time to experiment on race and gender |
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Edited on Thu May-17-07 09:37 PM by Robson
While I'd vote for Hillary or Obama....I don't see either as strong mainline candidates. They both offer either serious baggage or are inexperienced. This is not a time in America for the Democratic Party to attempt to offer the first on race or gender. France just tried it and lost.
I'd really like to see Gore run and definitively win.
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Thu May-17-07 09:49 PM
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15. Not a good time for him. |
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I would rather that the voting process be fixed first. The Rethugs are planning to steal the next election too, and have made a very good start on it. Unless a whole lot of folks can get their right to vote back, forget it.
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Thu May-17-07 09:53 PM
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17. Enough of the patronizing remarks |
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There's not a single person running now that has been president, so you have no performance guarantees for any candidate in this race. Without a doubt Richardson has the best resume. But there's an awful lot of experience in this current administration and you see what that buys you. As experienced as Senator Clinton is (and to be frank, she isn't that experienced in elected office) she was still culpable enough to vote for the IWR. That was political calculus (actually geometric triangulation) and nothing else. She not only demonstrated poor judgement, but a lack of political sophistication. There is no way she should have voted for that bill. She should have voted for the alternative resolutions that would have provided a separate AUMF. She had the council of Big Dog..that says a lot..about her and Big Dog. But then again Big Dog was stupid enough to be persuaded by the neocons to sign the Iraqi Liberation Act. Remember that piece of handywork? The Republicans are throwing it in our face every chance they get.
Barack Obama is as experienced as he needs to be by law. If you want to persist with the bigoted observation that his candidacy is an experiment with race, then you'll meet with my vigorous dissapproval. I'm sick and tired of you folks that think the Presidency is the divine right of white men.
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Thu May-17-07 10:13 PM
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27. So which is most important running or winning? |
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Gore is the most experienced and knowledgeable and most likely to win. We need a winner not an example. That is what the goal should be and nothing else. You may not be bigotted but there are many in the USA that have reservations about race and gender just as they did in France.
I'd like to see Gore and Obama, or Edwards run together as a P/VP team. I think Gore would be unbeatable. The others have some risk and lack experience.
Truthfully and in all honesty I wouldn't be seriously offended if the GOP ran Ron Paul. I'd much prefer Gore, but Paul is acceptable to me and a split government has always been good for debate and our democracy. The last 6 years under Bush and his lapdog Congress should send shutters through us all.
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Thu May-17-07 11:23 PM
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I have nothing personal against Gore , but I don't think he's the shoe in that you think he is. He had his shot before..didn't even carry his home state or the rest of the argument would have been academic. The election had no business being that close. The Presidency is not his to take just by showing up at the party late. If he couldn't win on Big Dogs coattails, he won't be winning against Big Dog's proxy. The Dog already marginalized him when he was the VP. How do you explain Kyoto being taken off the table? That's Al's signature issue and the Dog punked him on that. That wasn't a terribly vigorous fight put up the the Clinton/Gore admin to marshall that treaty through. In fact, PBS called it exactly what it is...a major dissappointment of his adminstration.
As for the Gore/Obama thing. If I'm Obama, I go back to the Senate and then run for govenor the next shot I get. I don't think the dems will be good for three terms. Iraq will be a mess and it will be the death of the next president. If I could give one good reason I won't fret if Obama loses, it would be that. Experience is not going to help the next president put the lid back on a 1400 year old feud.
Paul is a marginal figure. Call him the Kucinich of the GOP. Paul is a libertarian who is running out of a nondescript district in bumfu*k Texas. As much as I like what he had to say the other night, he doesn't strike me as anybody I'd want anywhere near executive government..he is totally naive on a lot of issues..foreign policy being one of them.
The person I'd most like to see on the Republican side...Newt Gingrich. He'd be the ideal candidate for a walkover. The toughest...I'd say right now, Fred Thompson..only because I think he'd be an acceptable compromise given the dearth of "genuine" conservative candidates right now. He could rally the base..particularly with a divisive candidate like Hillary running. I will support the democratic nominee, but the Democratic party is going to be in deep dodo if Hillary gets the nod..even if she wins. I think the moderates in the electorate might just vote in more pubs in the house or the Senate to offset her. That's my hunch. On the other hand, a close examination of Obama's record working across the isle shows that he has an ability to get concensus. He was enormously successful working with the Republicans during his stretch in the Illinois senate. (profiling and death penalty issues, ethics, etc.) The demographics of his electorate showed that he carried downstate Illinois handily..just like carrying the deep south. Obama-Lugur Nuclear Materials control act..co-sponsored and passed through the Senate last year.
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Fri May-18-07 01:07 AM
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36. Richardson doesn't have the best resume |
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Edited on Fri May-18-07 01:07 AM by Breeze54
but he does have a good one and many good and bad points, as do all the candidates. As far as Obama is concerned, I do think he's in need of more experience. Hillary is another story but she wasn't alone voting for the IWR. Kucinich has the most integrity, imho, as far as the IWR and trying to put an end to the war on Iraq!
I think HRC, being a woman, will be up against a lot of bigots and misogynists! I'm sick and tired of you folks that think the Presidency is the divine right of white men.
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Thu May-17-07 09:57 PM
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Thu May-17-07 09:48 PM
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14. Are you talking about me? nt |
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Thu May-17-07 09:58 PM
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21. Damn... How'd You Know ??? |
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Thu May-17-07 09:54 PM
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18. The same thing I've been saying about him since he took office in 2000... |
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... oh, wait. You weren't talking about the Chimp, were you? He's the decider/uniter/baldheadkisser/commanderguy/warpretzeldent/photo-ophogging/manofjeebus.... but he ain't no President, nor is close to being interested in being one. He's interested in being a war criminal and a despot dictator.
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Thu May-17-07 10:01 PM
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22. What Do You Say About A Person, Who Could Easily Choose Among 8 Excellent Candidates for President.. |
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Thu May-17-07 10:04 PM
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24. Do You Know Somebody Like That ??? |
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Thu May-17-07 10:04 PM
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23. A man with a free spirit who should be left alone to make his own choices |
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And a man I have great love and respect for.
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Thu May-17-07 10:06 PM
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26. I Agree... And As I Said... |
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Frustratingly refreshing.
:shrug:
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Thu May-17-07 10:29 PM
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Delightfully refreshing ;-) |
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Thu May-17-07 10:17 PM
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He doesn't need to prove anything, doesn't need to feed his ego, ambition or insecurities with power. Sometimes I think you've got to have some sort of neurosis to go through the Presidential process in this country. What sane, normal person would want it?
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Thu May-17-07 10:18 PM
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29. Here is what I would say. |
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Al Gore has more power to make what he and I believe in happen right now and he knows it too. So does Bill Clinton.
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Thu May-17-07 10:23 PM
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30. What do you say about a man that has no business as POTUS yet desires it? |
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Thu May-17-07 10:26 PM
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31. Smart guy. Good for him. Wish he lived next door. n/t |
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Thu May-17-07 10:29 PM
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32. I'd say he's not going to grovel...if we're not smart enough, he can just |
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live out his life knowing he did many things right.
Given the current choices, Gore's the only alternative, and he's the best choice too.
He doesn't need to slog thorugh a bunch of stupid TV debates.
What I hope he does is declare in Florida, run in that primary, kick ass, and dare DNC to deny him the votes at the convention(they sent a letter out saying anyone running in the January Florida Primary will be punished by not being able to claim the votes. Oh sure, Florida, small state, no clout.
Go for it Al.
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Thu May-17-07 10:33 PM
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Edited on Thu May-17-07 10:33 PM by proud patriot
Dream of a hopeful future :)
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