Chinese Ramen, Chinese Gluten and Human Kidney Problems

[Wiley50]

After wheat flour, gluten is the next ingredient (sometimes called wheat protein)

Most Ramen noodles are manufactured in China

Still doing basic research. Anyone want to help

My kidneys have been real sick lately

Being poor, I have been eating a lot of it

I've had to stop eating it

Sure would like to have what I have left analyzed

[Critters2]

1. I took some of those little individual cans of peaches

out of my cabinet today, and saw "Product of China". 'Cuz no one in this country grows peaches, huh? I'll have to read labels more carefully!

[Redstone]

2. Could it be because Ramen noodles are LOADED with salt?

Redstone

[Wiley50]

6. Pretty sure it's that too

but at 39 cents a cup
just add water and nuke
and it fills you up

[Redstone]

9. Why not just buy spaghetti? Pasta is damn cheap, you know.

Redstone

[Wiley50]

13. Lots of Pasta Made in China

Noodles & Pasta Products :
139 Suppliers

http://www.21food.com/product/1026-p1/Noodles-&-Pasta.html

Look at how many pasta products of all kinds are made in china

[Redstone]

21. So, could you READ THE PACKAGE?

Redstone

[Wiley50]

24. Some ramen brands made in US by US companies

but the noodles they use in them come from China

They don't have to say on the package

[Redstone]

26. But we've already established that ramen is bad for you, yes? Buy a box of spaghetti

instead, and you'll know EXACTLY where it was made. Add your own herbs & spices instead of a Mystery Packet of Flavoring, and you're golden.

Redstone

[renate]

32. spaghetti isn't high in saturated fat, either

Just reading the nutrition label on a packet of ramen will raise your LDL cholesterol level.

Whereas aglio e olio--spaghetti with olive oil and garlic--will probably help bring bad cholesterol levels down, especially if the spaghetti's whole wheat.

Ramen's yummy and cheap, so it really is a shame that it's so unhealthy.

[CatWoman]

33. and fat

[whistle]

3. Can the melamine fake protein molecules get into the blood stream

...and bone marrow of humans? Might it also cause rare bone marrow diseases thought to be other types of illnesses?

[grasswire]

4. gack!

:::running to the cupboard:::

[Gold Metal Flake]

5. This reply is a kick...

...but if this shit is in Kraft Mac & Cheese millions are in trouble.

[Wiley50]

8. We better all look at our noodles, all of them

Lots of pasta is made in China these days

I found one in China that manufactures "Italian-Style" Pasta

They manufacture all kinds of pasta in China these days

[Wiley50]

20. lOOK AT THIS QUOTE FROM LINK BELOW

Experts say China would like to close the door on the episode. And so would America’s biggest food companies like Kraft, which is supporting an organization that is pushing to strengthen the F.D.A.

In a statement issued this week, Kraft Foods said, “We’re also lending our support to the Coalition for a Stronger F.D.A. and industry colleagues in urging Congress for substantial funding increases to the F.D.A. for the agency’s food oversight functions.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/18/business/worldbusiness/18trade.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&hp

[Shallah Kali]

30. Kraft Mac & Cheese has INDUSTRIAL Grade Milk Protein Concentrate, it isn't food grade!

Lax FDA allows us to be food guinea pigs (melamine, cyanuric acid, etc +industrial cheese)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x281389

[Warpy]

7. The flavor packet is where the gluten likely is

and not all packs of ramen are Chinese. There are some made in Japan and even Mexico. I have to admit a particular fondness for Enchiloso lime and chile flavor. I don't eat it often, just as a once in a blue moon treat.

From Wiki: "Most ramen noodles are made from four basic ingredients: wheat flour, salt, water, and kansui (かんすい) which is essentially a type of mineral water, containing sodium carbonate and usually potassium carbonate, as well as sometimes a small amount of phosphoric acid."

Personally, I'd advise a beans and rice diet over a ramen one. It's just as cheap, or cheaper, and gives you a decent amount of protein, fibre, and other nutrients instead of empty calories swimming in broth of questionable origin.

Woops, here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramen

[Wiley50]

10. Take a look

http://www.21food.com/product/1026-p3/Noodles-&-Pasta.html

IRMA(International Ramen Manufacturers Association)

http://www.instantramen.or.jp/IRMA/

ramen manufacturing companies inchina

http://www.google.com/search?q=ramen+manufacturing+companies+inchina&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Redstone]

11. Yes, you're right. Beans and rice are MUCH better nutritionally. Besides which, microwaving ANYTHING

in a Styrofoam cup is a REALLY bad idea, healthwise.

Redstone

[Wiley50]

14. Actually, Glutenous wheat flour is the main ingredeint in most all pasta

It's what makes it sticky and hold together

[Warpy]

19. It's not REFINED gluten

it's WHEAT FLOUR. Gluten is part of WHEAT.

The REFINED gluten is in the flavor packet. DO look at the recipe from Wiki.

[catgirl]

29. Japan imports a large portion of their food from China

including gluten that is used in food Japan makes and EXPORTS!

[Warpy]

31. Yeah, I know

I've gone back to making my own seitan.

[bermudat]

12. Uh oh. Ramen, Cup of Soup..omg!

I thought America was one of the world's foremost food producers. I've begun looking at food labels. Even tho it says manufactured in the US, the food is from somewhere else. I love mandarin oranges cups and even Dole and Del Monte say 'product of Thailand.' The walmart brand says product of China. Who is eating the food produces by the US?

[Wiley50]

16. Little food is grown in the US anymore

That was done by small independent farmers

Nowadays Huge conglomerates have bought up most of the small farms
and they get politicians to vote them Huge Farm Subsidies NOT TO PLANT

Remember FARM AID?

[hfojvt]

15. mine says 'made in USA'

wheat protein is the 4th ingredient of the seasoning mix, after salt, monosodium glutamate, hydrolyzed soy, then corn and wheat protein. These are from Aldis though, instead of the other I normally get at Wal-mart.

[Wiley50]

17. The question is where were the noodles in it made

Look Here

http://www.21food.com/product/1026-p1/Noodles-&-Pasta.html

I get mine from ALDI too

Jehling Ramen in a Cup works out to .39/cup in carton of 8

[SoCalDem]

22. "made in the USA", but made from basic ingredients imported?

from ???

This is what's so indidious..

[Wiley50]

25. Exactly

and you're right it' is incidious

[SoCalDem]

28. eek.. why, oh why, don't I do spellcheck ??

I really do know how to spell the words.. I just cannot type :)

[Wiley50]

18. New Related DU Thread

An Export Boom Suddenly Facing a Quality Crisis (China)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2850370

Link to article in thread

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/18/business/worldbusiness/18trade.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

'The current scare may prompt changes in China. The former head of the nation’s food and drug safety watchdog is now on trial in Beijing, accused of accepting bribes and failing to curb the growing market in fake and dangerous medicines.'

[Xenotime]

23. This is really scary...

I too have eaten Ramen noodles. I now fear for my life. THANK YOU FUCKING CHINA!

[REP]

27. I'm In Kidney Failure; Have Never Eaten Ramen (or Much Other Pasta)

What symptoms do you have? What's your creatinine? BUN?