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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:35 PM
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Poll question: How's that talking point on the ''professional left'' holding up?
Somebody posted that in a reply to one of my other threads, and I can't believe people are still peddling that crap.

The GOP works synergistically with right wing media, but the White House and whoever is spreading these talking points seems to think it's smart to shit on the emerging progressive media rather than work with it.

How are you going to get your message out if you don't have the media and you don't even have the enthusiasm of your base?

Do you buy this meme that the ''professional left'' is expressing sentiments vastly different from what the Democratic base is thinking and feeling on their own.

I would also be curious to hear who counts as this ''professional left.'' Is it anyone to the left of Fox News and gets paid to write or appear on TV? Anyone who speaks on behalf of an advocacy group? Who on the left can speak with a national megaphone and have the respect of the White House and Democratic leadership?

The bottom line is, does the ''professional left'' more or less reflect what Democratic voters feel or are they way out of line?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:37 PM
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1. The 'professional left' is just their way of weaseling out of attacking everyone to the left of
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 01:41 PM by Vincardog
Attila the Hun
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:39 PM
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Atti? Who is that? I first read it as Atila!
:rofl:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:38 PM
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2. "See Republicans? You can trust us, we dont like the left either."
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:39 PM
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3. yeah, that'll work. Though it might work with the Wall St. scum they are courting.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:43 PM
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4. Still as true as the day Gibbs first used the term....

FDL, Glen Greenwald... etc... their aim is to kneecap the President in the name of ideological "purity" tests.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:49 PM
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5. Don't forget David Michael Green...
whose hyperbolic ramblings we get to see posted here every week.

Sid
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:53 PM
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7. Yep.... him too....
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:02 PM
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13. in other words, he hurt the DLC's corrupt feelings.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 07:00 PM
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14. He called the President "the little prick"...
You think that's acceptable criticism from the left?

Sid
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:01 AM
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18. it depends on the context
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:14 AM
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19. In what context is it OK to call the President "the little prick"?...nt
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 09:14 AM by SidDithers
Sid
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:34 PM
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20. He works for us, not vice versa
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:53 PM
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21. Huh?...
That's the context that makes it acceptable to call someone "the little prick"? That they work for you?

:shrug:

Sid
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:57 PM
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23. as insults go, that's pretty mild
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:56 PM
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9. How can Greenwald "kneecap" the President? Sounds pretty violent!
That's funny, as is labeling anyone with a consistent set of progressive values "ideologues". Funny and sad at the same time.



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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:00 PM
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12. nope--it's posters here still using it, along with the attitude of ''vote for us because we're
not as bad as the alternative.''
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:51 PM
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6. It's not working well - nor should it. Nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 01:56 PM
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8. Hilarious. YOU are the one stirring things up. Always looking for another outrage session.
Never accomplishing anything.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 02:22 PM
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10. Other: It's the thin-skinned and divisive who keep it alive
Robert Gibbs put his foot in his mouth, and his next course was the All-You-Can-Eat Fried Crow.

And that was that.

We have an election to win.

--d!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 03:26 PM
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11. You really think he wouldn't have said it if Rahm hadn't told him to?
it was a trial balloon floated by the administration because they don't have a clue what democrats outside their DLC circle really think.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:29 PM
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24. I disagree.
I believe they do have a clue what Democrats outside their circle really think. They simply don't care, or are outright contemptuous.
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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 07:03 PM
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15. when I heard the term
I though of "uber liberals" - which despite what some people claim, is not how the majority of Americans across the
country identify themselves as.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:59 AM
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17. which pundits or political commentators do fairly represent your views.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:54 AM
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26. There is no such thing as 'uber liberals' -
that is a RW meme meant to subtly associate liberalism with German fascism, on the same line as equating National Socialism with Socialism.

So OF COURSE the majority of Americans don't identify themselves as such - NOBODY does, only their enemies use that label.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 07:08 PM
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16. the professional left = THINKING DEMOCRATS
the others are SHEEP
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m00nbeam Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:57 PM
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22. exactly
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:44 PM
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25. Exactly. nt
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